[Mind's Eye] Re: What is happening to you?

Yes- for that superficial chatter but during the years I have somehow
inspired a few revelations that seem holy and sacred and it always
comes as a surprise to me because I have had struggles with my own
self-understanding. I am thinking of three workmen, in particular
here. I find social groups and family are harder as roles are assumed
and one keeps up a "front".

On Dec 3, 8:16 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Comment allez-vous or ca va?  I sort of think of it as the way agency
> has moved on Gabby.  Life, jobs, family and that kind of thing kinda
> rolled on by once.  Maybe I've just started not to know what people
> talk about because once the start I've heard it all before?
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> On Dec 3, 2:51 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > that link page is too big.. maybe ill read it later
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> > On Nov 14, 4:33 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Can it be that this a generation thing? I mean, the question used to be
> > > "How are you?" and then one started discussing the weather. This "what is
> > > happening to you/ to others" has this artificial dualism to it, which I
> > > understand Molly doesn't appreciate either. And the next generation's
> > > question is, where is the link to the stream.
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> > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Pat might just be interested in this -
> > > >http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-collapse/
> > > > - which is very clever stuff on physics I found I could only handle in
> > > > parts.  My brain is much less capable in both maths and being bothered
> > > > with deep riddles these days.  I play only as an amateur.  There's
> > > > some sort of argument in this stuff that allows a realist view of
> > > > macroscopic space-time - i.e. that the moon is where it is without
> > > > anyone looking and our old chestnut tree crashes to the ground as
> > > > likely when we aren't looking - that is consistent with quantum-level
> > > > theorising.
> > > > I'm a tropical fish realist - if I want to know about, say, India on
> > > > the ground, I'd ask Vam or people with direct experience I've actually
> > > > worked with.  If more than interest was at stake, I'd go.  Even
> > > > reading, incidentally, indicates that standard 'white people's
> > > > histories' I soaked up from Hollywood-BBC are false.  I tend to like
> > > > my climate science from climate scientists, not the guff from
> > > > Hollywood-BBC.  It's hard to get stuff from the 'horse's mouth', and
> > > > of course even when one can, there remain problems of knowing enough
> > > > to understand - as a minute with the link above will indicate.  I
> > > > often find little to distinguish the academic and presumably accurate
> > > > material and, say, some of the barking on Epistemology.  I tend
> > > > towards the experts in science.
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> > > > This general attitude of mine does not extend to politics and
> > > > economics.  Here I find the experts vapid, generally untrustworthy and
> > > > speaking in code or some sort.  The dominant dross in economics since
> > > > I started teaching it has been broadly neo-classical and so vapid it's
> > > > models ignored debt.  You can find the criticism and a more realistic
> > > > model in the work of Steve Keen who puts his work out free.  This is
> > > > the model I teach - though I take a more narrative-behavioural line
> > > > based on the question 'what's happening to you'?  Quite a few of my
> > > > undergrad and postgrad students find this so unusual that they start
> > > > to look like shock and awe victims.
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> > > > The follow up question (the first is more difficult than any quantum-
> > > > waffle) is 'what is happening to other people'?  Towards the end of
> > > > 101 we might get to whether current economics as actually described in
> > > > textbooks in a manner similar to that in books about keeping tropical
> > > > fish describe how to keep the fish.  Such matters can broaden out into
> > > > how a science research programme has a core and periphery (Lakatos,
> > > > Kuhn) and allows evidence and explanation to change these.
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> > > > One can point to much information that demonstrates economics only
> > > > works for a small proportion of people, but the idea is to let people
> > > > get on with their own enquiries.  You may be surprised how few respond
> > > > well to this.  Steve Keen's lectures are all available free on line I
> > > > tell them - why waste £9K a year getting them from a bum like me?
> > > > Some of the kinder answers involve me being a teacher, but teaching
> > > > people to think for themselves.  Some of them turn me into a very good
> > > > teacher.  I fail with loads.  They demand instruction.  You'd think
> > > > more people would want to explore knowledge,but there don't seem to be
> > > > many.  And I have to say, on first sight of me, most struggle with
> > > > both the first questions.  I'll repeat them in that patronising manner
> > > > of teacher training:
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> > > > 1. what is happening to you?
> > > > 2. what is happening to others?
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> > > > I can, of course, put the answers in statistical form.
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> > > > 1.you're being screwed.
> > > > 2. they're being screwed.
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