Late Captain Mountbatton: How far does your kingdom extend in the East?
Late King Mahendra: As far as are Nepali people living. (Source: Email Below)
From: deodsharma@hotmail.com
To: bhutaneserefugee@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:52:30 +0000
No !! Bhutan Gov's fear is about losing the State. It wants to establish a unique nation so as to provide continuance to the State.
Darjeeling's desire is to have a better political bargaing for the people. The Morcha already has a Nation. It is using the people power to cause the change. The activists want to have a State and bring home better facilities to the people. They feel that they are now discriminated.
Best regards.
D.
From: rayakatej_man@hotmail.com
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Subject: FW: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:59:29 +0000
Many of you might have already read the following opinion by Mr. RP Subba. I am just forwarding it to all in the google group.
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Once upon a time a chariot wheel was raising a column of dust as it rolled over the dusty road. A tiny 'housefly' seated on the chariot wheel proudly claimed that the dust, on the road, was raised by 'it' ... ... and everyone laughed. So is the above claim - entirely rhetorical and undue.
It will be pragmatic to accept the fact that we have traversed deep into a globalized world governed by supra-national concepts. Even the principle of government has, long time ago, given way to governance. And the idea of governance too has already moved from horizontal to that of net-working. Therefore, lets not keep our life's wheel still stuck in the mud of 'past tense'. While keeping intact our good values and identity, lets begin to explain and interpret our life in 'future tense' tinged more with humanistic, humane and universal values.
Always, Jogen
From: deodsharma@hotmail.com
To: bhutaneserefugee@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:52:30 +0000
No !! Bhutan Gov's fear is about losing the State. It wants to establish a unique nation so as to provide continuance to the State.
Darjeeling's desire is to have a better political bargaing for the people. The Morcha already has a Nation. It is using the people power to cause the change. The activists want to have a State and bring home better facilities to the people. They feel that they are now discriminated.
Best regards.
D.
Deo Sharma
From: rayakatej_man@hotmail.com
To: bhutaneserefugee@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:59:29 +0000
Many of you might have already read the following opinion by Mr. RP Subba. I am just forwarding it to all in the google group.
With thanks,
Tej M Rayaka Monger
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:59:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
From: rpsubba@gmail.com
To: friendsreunion@googlegroups.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:59:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [FRIENDSREUNION] RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
From: rpsubba@gmail.com
To: friendsreunion@googlegroups.com
Great quotations - very symbolic and significant from Michael Hutt. This actually sums up the entire history of conflct and cooperation among nations within States and among States comprised by different nations.
In political science, countries are commonly defined as nation-states; as the background for their formation was based on the nations carving their own territories and States. Therefore, the aspiration of nations to carve out political States of their own is very much a legay history has passed on. Israel is an example. The demand for Gorkhaland is another example. This falls in the first category of Hutt's quotation - ''Desire of a nation to have a state of its own''.
Some States due to political, geographical or other reasons inherit a diverse nation during formation. The fight for domination ensues and it culminates into one particular nation capturing the centres of power of the State. Then in the name of the State and by using all the powers of the State, this particular nation aspires to expand its influence on other nations, attempting to homogenize all the population into its fold. Such States justify suppression of other nations citing national security reasons - the presence of a large number of a diverse nation is viewed as a threat. To keep the example simple - Bhutan is a perfect example. Bhutan is Bhutan for us, but for the nation that rules; it is also 'Druk'. The 'Druk' is a religio-ethnic expression and it is enforcing that identity on every one. The intention is to turn Bhutan into a nation of the Drukpas. ''Desire of a state to have a nation of its own''.2011/9/29 Tej Man Rayakamonger <rayakatej_man@hotmail.com>
सबैमा सलाम,
''Desire of a nation to have a state of its own''माइकल हटको लेखमा रहेका माथी का वाक्यांश (पदावली)को अर्थ के होला ? यसको सही अर्थ बुझ्न सके हामीले हाम्रो रष्ट्रीयता परिभाषित गर्ने सवाल मा सहज हुने थियो कि ?हामी हाम्रो स्वराजबाट निस्कासन हुनु पर्ने एउटा प्रमुख कारण हाम्रो इतिहास कम्जोर रहनु पनि हो । कहिले हामी गोर्खाली भयौँ त कहिले नेपाली अनि कहिले भूटानी! शासक हरूको स्वार्थ अनुसार हाम्रो जातिय पहिचान बदलिई रह्यो ।अहिले आएर हामी फेरी पुनर्वासको क्रममा विभिन्न देशमा पुनर्स्थापित हुँदैछौँ । चार सय-साढे चार सय वर्ष पहिलेको जस्तो हाम्रो चेतना छैन आज । आफ्नो नैसर्गीक अधिकार पनि लडेर लिन नसक्ने असामर्थ पिडिको रूपमा त हामी इस्थापित भयौँ-भयौँ तर अब हामीले हाम्रो जातिय पहिचान आजका हाम्रा छोरा-छोरीलाई स्पष्ट पार्न सकेनौँ भने हामीलाई दोष लगाउने मात्र होईन सराप्ने पनि छन हाम्रै सन्ततिले । किन कि नजाने कसले हाम्रो भन्दा पनि विकराल र विसम परिस्थिती भोग्नु पर्ने छ उनिहरूले!सोह्रौँ शताव्दीताका भूटान गए जस्तो नसम्झौँ है कसैले पनि अर्को नयाँ देशमा नवनागरीकको रूपमा प्रवेश गरिरहँदा! कि कसो ?आज त हामीसँग उच्च शिक्षित विद्वानवुध्दिजिविहरू हुनुहुन्छ, हाम्रो यथार्थ इतिहासको निस्पक्ष दस्तावेजिकरण गरिदिनु पर्यो!विद्वताको घमण्ड गर्ने र जुंघाको लडाईँ लड्ने बेला होईन यो । सबैमा चेतना भया!हवस त हजुर्,तेजमान रायका मंगरम्यूनिख, जर्मनी
From: deodsharma@hotmail.com
To: bhutaneserefugee@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:11:28 +0000
Exhaustively researched. I think none else can present better(material-wise).
Late Captain Mountbatton: How far does your kingdom extend in the East?
Late King Mahendra: As far as are Nepali people living.
Best regards.
D.
Yes, Nepali people can live only within Nepal.
Deo Sharma
Good friends are like stars........
You don't always see them,
But you know they are always there- Anonymous.
N.B: Nepali, ethnic name of the natives of Nepal has been as pure as that of any others'. There is some confusion to readers because the native people of Nepal take pride in using this term to mean anything that is of/from Nepal. Otherwise, the terms nepaley, nepalko, nepaliya, are used to mean Nepal's.The word Nepali originally is a noun - the ethnic name, and name of the language. So, be careful when you use it as an adjective. Nepali laguage is not Nepal's language, but Nepali people's common language. Nepal has several languages of which Nepali has had opportunity of being the national language, and the office language.
Deo Sharma confuses people on nationality, language periphery and State.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:25:05 +0800
Subject: BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
From: govindarizal@gmail.com
To: bhutaneserefugee@googlegroups.com
BEING NEPALI WITHOUT NEPAL
All Nepalese have NEPAL.
A portion of the Bhutanese (nepali skeaking) today live without BHUTAN.
--Govinda Rizal
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Skype: GovindaRizalFor a harmonious coexistence of humans with living and non living entities of the universe
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