position - it's Boston Consulting Group. http://www.bcg.com/documents/file87307.pdf
On Oct 4, 8:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is good to see you again Chris and Don..
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> I was thinking (I know a rare event) last night only to have the topic
> return this morning..
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> After watching all the demonstrations some thing emerged that does not make
> sense to me nor do I understand. maybe some one can straighten me out..
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> He goes: If I invest my money in a company say Sky Cat (I like the idea) I
> am hoping the company will go on to produce me a profit by manufacturing the
> air type craft. They have my money, I have a share of their company
> because they control my money..
>
> Now if I give a "Bank" control of my money they do not in return give me a
> share of their stock like a normal company does.. they invest both their
> money and my money and I have no problem with that,, what I have a problem
> with is the sharing of the profits.. if there is a profit their share of the
> money makes more money than mine,, but if they lose money It is my money
> that is lost not theirs..
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> Even if I put money in a simple savings account,, it is investing in the
> bank.. and what I am seeing is a group if people who think the laws of
> economics and moral responsibility. If they lose money,, because they are
> the ones in control morally they should be taking the greater share of the
> lose.. and that includes the stock market..
> Allan
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> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Leaving moderation behind has made it feel like a whole new list for me. :D
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> > I too am worried about undue influence coopting the cause, but I think
> > that's an inevitability of any populist movement. Even the Egyptians are
> > warily eyeing their "liberated" government. I just hope some good is
> > accomplished along the way.
> > On Oct 3, 2011 7:15 PM, "Don Johnson" <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm very glad to see your august presence back amongst these humble
> > boards
> > > Chris.
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> > > The self portraits of 99%s with notes describing themselves affected me
> > > somewhat. Some are easy to dismiss as whiny but many are obviously
> > feeling
> > > the same pain I see in family and friends around me. It literally puts a
> > > face, many faces actually, on our problems. I'm very glad folks like you
> > are
> > > out there recording these times. I mean that because I see in you someone
> > > without a particular agenda other then improvement. I have never seen you
> > as
> > > someone that ignores or tries to cover up obvious discrepancies in what
> > > politicians say and what they do. I find your support of Ron Paul
> > > refreshing. While I disagree with many of his policies the thing I most
> > > admire about him is his consistency. There are few things our President
> > has
> > > done I approve of but killing terrorists is at the top of the list. Ron
> > is
> > > wrong on this.
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> > > Now, with the ass kissing portion of my post out of the way, let's get to
> > > the Occupy(pickyourplace) kerfuffle. I made the observation in a post on
> > G+
> > > that this may be one of those times when you see Tea Partiers marching
> > next
> > > to Code Pinkers. Nobody likes corp. welfare and high unemployment except
> > for
> > > the lobbyists and politicians that engineer it. Even they don't like it
> > when
> > > they get caught. On the one hand I'm glad folks are "doing something" but
> > on
> > > the other I'm concerned with what seems to be unions trying to highjack
> > the
> > > movement for their own selfish ends. They are some of the biggest causes
> > of
> > > our current crisis. Just read s story how GM has thousands of Volts
> > sitting
> > > around not getting sold. This is what happens when government builds your
> > > cars or your solar panels. Somebody else always makes them better AND
> > > cheaper. My concern is most of those 'protesting' don't see things quite
> > the
> > > same way I do. Far too many are on the Class Warfare path and this
> > disturbs
> > > me. I have no beef with the rich. In fact, I appreciate that they pay the
> > > most and give the most. I hate favoritism and that is what government
> > > control and the punish/reward aspect of taxation is all about. I hate it.
> > > It's why I like Herman Cain's 'plan' of 9-9-9 better then anything else
> > > anybody has come up with. Getting rid of ALL the loopholes for the very
> > > wealthy would be awesome. It's galling to find out some of the most
> > ardent
> > > celebrity liberal supporters have much of their wealth sheltered from
> > taxes.
> > > Smart but hugely hypocritical. That said the rich aren't the problem, our
> > > screwy tax laws and a political class bent on pork and back scratching
> > and
> > > huge, mind numbing waste are. I agree we need to clean house in
> > Washington
> > > but I fear most of those in the streets would disagree with me who the
> > major
> > > culprits are.
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> > > As usual, Rigs makes the most sense of all the comments here. While I'm
> > not
> > > a supporter of the status quo exactly I do have a substantial amount of
> > my
> > > retirement in the market and T-bills. The required destruction of our
> > > current system to come up with something more to Archy's taste I'm scared
> > to
> > > death of. That's what crazy people like George Soros want. That's not for
> > > me. A more vigilant FTC and massive simplification of the tax code I
> > would
> > > welcome.
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> > > Thems my thoughts but I'm keeping an open mind.
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> > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> Ok, let's settle for rule #10! :)
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> > >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Chris Jenkins <
> > digitalprecip...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > >>> Fantastic link, Gabby! I especially like number 10. :D
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> > >>> No, by normalcy, I meant that the media focus to date has been on the
> > >>> counterculture types mostly, while ignoring those in business casual
> > attire.
> > >>> It makes it easy for the audience at large to be separate from them. I
> > want
> > >>> to show the world how many of their PEERS are there, coworkers,
> > colleagues,
> > >>> classmates...I want them to see that this isn't just some angry washed
> > out
> > >>> hippies, but an actual populist uprising comprised of their friends and
> > >>> neighbors.
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> > >>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > >>>> Ah, Chris, let me make clear that we understand that the "normal"
> > >>>> American media is employing this technique of "creating a sense of
> > >>>> connection" which worries us here across the pond. We therefore
> > >>>> welcome independent views in the U.S. What you'd call "left" is still
> > very
> > >>>> much "right" for our senses. What you call normalcy is what we often
> > >>>> perceive as extremely ignorant.
>
> > >>>> Let me give you an example of how we believe you need to take photos
> > that
> > >>>> deserve the label "independent":
> > >>>>http://www.lomography.com/about/the-ten-golden-rules
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> > >>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Chris Jenkins <
> > >>>> digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >>>>> Danke, Gabby! There's a general sense of marginalization about the
> > >>>>> group, and I'm hoping to capture the normalcy of the
> > protesters...create a
> > >>>>> sense of connection.
> > >>>>> On Oct 3, 2011 11:50 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> > Cheers, Chris! Documenting and sharing what you see as happening is
> > a
> > >>>>> good
> > >>>>> > thing, I find.
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> > >>>>> > It is very much of THE thing to do today, to gather with people who
> > >>>>> share
> > >>>>> > one's own view to demonstrate one's enlarged physical mass. I don't
> > >>>>> think
> > >>>>> > that it is smarter than finding new ways of fair communication
> > >>>>> beforehand,
> > >>>>> > though.
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> > >>>>> > But hey, we've had our share of "we are the people" pictures 22
> > years
> > >>>>> ago
> > >>>>> > and we won. Go ahead and do it the American (occupying) Style!
> > Learn
> > >>>>> to take
> > >>>>> > scalps if you must but leave the heads on!
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> > >>>>> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Chris Jenkins <
> > >>>>> digitalprecip...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > >>>>> >> So what do you all think of the various regional Occupy groups
> > >>>>> springing up
> > >>>>> >> around the US, emulating OccupyWallStreet? I'm going out to
> > >>>>> OccupyTampa on
> > >>>>> >> Thursday to do some independent media photography, but am curious
> > >>>>> about the
> > >>>>> >> perception of the country and world at large.
>
> --
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> )
> |_D Allan
>
> If your life is not going right, try making a left turn
>
> life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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