been able or willing to tell me how to make them a top post with the
little push pin. They should be revised, I am sure. But before that,
at least posted.
On Oct 1, 10:56 am, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, that I removed myself from the Mods group, and thus, the listing should
> be updated. :)
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> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hell, Chris, such brevity... !
> > Which is correct - my impression being a figment or as Molly's
> > stated ?
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> > On Oct 1, 7:40 pm, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > That's correct, Vam.
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> > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > " Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly."
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> > > > Posts elsewhere gave me the impression that Neil has joined the ranks
> > > > and Chris has refused to be redrawn into moderation affairs.
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> > > > Give it the pass, if my impression is a figment... But if true, you
> > > > need to revise the line quoted from your post above !
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> > > > On Oct 1, 5:44 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Mind's Eye Posting Guidelines
> > > > > 1. Introduction
> > > > > The moderators have always bent over backwards to avoid banning
> > anyone
> > > > > from Mind's Eye. This fact remains unchanged for anyone who has
> > proven
> > > > > themselves capable of meaningful contribution to the group. However,
> > > > > as the group has grown, so has its appeal to increasingly anti-social
> > > > > individuals who enjoy "trolling" forums. Trolling, says Wikipedia, is
> > > > > "making deliberately inflammatory remarks in order to provoke a
> > > > > vehement response from others" [1]. It's a very popular pastime on
> > the
> > > > > Internet, and one that can ruin online communities like ours.
>
> > > > > Mind's Eye -- by virtue of its increasing activity and diversity --
> > > > > has become a very tempting target for trolls. It seems that the days
> > > > > of only needing to ban one person every couple of years are now
> > > > > regrettably behind us. We are victims of our own success, and thus
> > the
> > > > > moderators have decided to revisit, tighten up, and clarify, what is
> > > > > acceptable/unacceptable in this group. Although this guide is mostly
> > > > > for the benefit of new members, we hope our existing members will
> > find
> > > > > this framework clarifies certain principles and conventions which
> > they
> > > > > already subscribed to.
> > > > > 2. New Member Moderation
> > > > > All new members of Mind's Eye are initially moderated. This means
> > that
> > > > > a new member's posts will not appear immediately, rather they will be
> > > > > held in a queue until an administrator has checked them over and
> > > > > released them to the group. The group's moderators are spread across
> > > > > several time zones and work schedules, thus this process generally
> > > > > happens within a few hours. Sometimes it's much quicker. However,
> > your
> > > > > patience is appreciated if it is the weekend or a public holiday.
> > > > > After a few posts we will take new members off of moderation, thus
> > > > > allowing their messages to appear -- the Internet and Google willing
> > > > > -- immediately.
>
> > > > > We take a strong line on posts from new members which contain links.
> > > > > Farming hits for your website or blog from Mind's Eye is very likely
> > > > > to get you banned. After your moderation has been removed and you
> > have
> > > > > proven yourself capable of meaningful contribution, we would tend to
> > > > > be more relaxed about you linking back to your website, assuming it
> > is
> > > > > relevant and not just blatant hit farming.
>
> > > > > This moderation policy has stopped Mind's Eye sinking under the
> > weight
> > > > > of spam, which has ruined many other groups.
> > > > > 3. Etiquette & Principles
> > > > > 1. If you are looking to "flame" people or generally be
> > > > > obnoxious, please find yourself a different outlet. Mind's Eye is a
> > > > > group intended for rational discussions. Aggressive/bullying posts
> > are
> > > > > unwelcome. If you've had a bad day, go and take your stress out
> > > > > elsewhere. Remember, a hasty retort thrown together in anger will be
> > > > > visible to the world long after those feelings have subsided.
> > > > > Moderators are unable to delete your posts on the website or suck
> > them
> > > > > magically out of the inboxes of members who participate via email.
> > > > > 2. Attacks upon immutable human characteristics (race,
> > > > > disability, sexual orientation, et al) are totally unacceptable.
> > > > > 3. Debates about a person's deeply held values, beliefs, or way
> > > > > of life, should be tempered with a high level of respect and
> > civility.
> > > > > These debates have been some of our most interesting over the years,
> > > > > and they work, or not, based upon the level of mutual respect and
> > > > > honesty extended by each side. If your motive is to ridicule members,
> > > > > or spread bad feeling, please do not bother to post.
> > > > > 4. We've tackled a fair few sacred cows over the years and these
> > > > > are always interesting discussions. However, by their nature, these
> > > > > debates are very likely to stir up emotions. Please accept that the
> > > > > world is full of people with radically different opinions to yours
> > > > > which they hold equally as strongly. Mind's Eye is a forum for you to
> > > > > interact with such people and learn more about them. It is not a
> > forum
> > > > > for you to attack them, even if they are "pro abortion baby killers",
> > > > > "neo-con nutjobs", "pinko liberals", "sinners", or even British. All
> > > > > of the above miscreants are welcome.
> > > > > 5. Posting irrelevant asides, snide comments, or generally
> > trying
> > > > > to derail a discussion, is not in the spirit of the group. If you
> > have
> > > > > nothing to contribute to a discussion, move on, start a new thread,
> > or
> > > > > just be happy reading what other people have posted.
> > > > > 6. Avoid simple "you are wrong" statements; if you have a point
> > > > > to make, back it up. Please also see the section labelled "Quoting/
> > > > > Citations" for specific information on how you should cite your
> > > > > sources.
> > > > > 7. Avoid swearing/cussing, unless it is absolutely pertinent to
> > > > > the discussion at hand. Sometimes it happens naturally in the flow of
> > > > > a sentence -- and I'm guilty of it -- but there are many far more
> > > > > creative ways to express yourself.
> > > > > 8. Do not preach or proselytize: we are here to discuss ideas,
> > > > > not be recruited to your particular religion no matter how great you
> > > > > think it is or how much peril you believe our eternal souls to be in.
> > > > > 9. Do not patronise our members. The membership of Mind's Eye is
> > > > > fantastically diverse in terms of member's ages, levels of education,
> > > > > forms of spirituality, life experience, and professional vocations.
> > > > > Even if you think you know the answer to life, the universe, and
> > > > > everything, you'll be stirring all kinds of bad feeling if your tone
> > > > > is smug or condescending. Assuming the role of "teacher" is often
> > > > > unpopular.
> > > > > 10. Ad hominen should be avoided and, in the most serious
> > > > > circumstances, could see you moderated or banned. Wikipedia defines
> > ad
> > > > > hominem as "replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or
> > > > > appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the
> > > > > argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the
> > > > > argument or producing evidence against the claim. [3]"
> > > > > 4. Quoting / Citations
> > > > > 1. Copy/pasting reams of text from a website, without a
> > citation,
> > > > > gives the impression that you are claiming the work as your own.
> > Given
> > > > > that this is probably not the case, please attribute the quote to its
> > > > > author or source.
> > > > > 2. When quoting from a website, do not copy/paste the entire
> > > > > article. Try and limit your citation to a paragraph or two, and, of
> > > > > course, please provide the link.
> > > > > 3. If you wish to reproduce content from Mind's Eye elsewhere,
> > we
> > > > > ask you to seek permission of the author(s).
> > > > > 5. Crossposting/multiposting
> > > > > Crossposting is "the act of posting the same message to multiple
> > > > > forums, mailing lists, or newsgroups" [2]. It is sometimes known as
> > > > > multiposting. Mind's Eye is a discussion forum and we encourage you
> > to
> > > > > take part, not treat the group as a one-way audience for your message
> > > > > (no matter how important you believe it to be). We consider
> > > > > crossposting to be the equivalent to spamming, thus it could see you
> > > > > banned. Depending on previous form, the moderators may take a more
> > > > > lenient stand with existing members; however, be clear, repeated
> > > > > crossposting may see you moderated or banned.
> > > > > 6. Bannings
> > > > > All decisions regarding disciplinary actions up to and including
> > > > > banishment from the group are discussed thoroughly among the
> > > > > moderators before any decision is made. None of the moderators take
> > it
> > > > > upon themselves to discipline a member of the group. Disciplinary
> > > > > actions include, but are not limited to: warnings, return to
> > moderated
> > > > > status, banishment from the group, and ETERNAL DAMNATION. Except for
> > > > > exceptional circumstances -- such as emergencies where other
> > > > > moderators are out of contact -- all bannings and moderations are
> > > > > voted on.
> > > > > 7. The Moderators
> > > > > Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly. None of us
> > share
> > > > > the same religious or political views, thus we hope that there is no
> > > > > bias in moderation.
>
> > > > > If you need to contact the moderators "off-list", you should click
> > the
> > > > > "Send email to the owner" link on the page below:
>
> > > --
> > > Planning without action is futile; action without planning is fatal.
> > > The Web Guy <http://imtheirwebguy.com>
>
> --
> Planning without action is futile; action without planning is fatal.
> The Web Guy <http://imtheirwebguy.com>
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