Saturday, July 30, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Worship

Jo their are people especially on this sight that will try and convince they are learned masters, when in reality they are but fundamentalist. Reading it sounds very much like a earth moving event. I know you are not alone, simply because I too have walked that path.

I would recommend that it become a private conversation , I know personally I would enjoy that, my email address is valid do not put it through the group. And the easiest remind me is put topic-PVT in the subject line
Looking forward to hearing from you

Allan

On 29 jul. 2011, at 22:35, Jo <jojocasamento@gmail.com> wrote:

> It wasn't meant to remind anything to anyone. I was only sharing my
> experience. I'm sorry if you found it too rudimentary.
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> On Jul 29, 1:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You pray before the meals? Yes, that's a good reminder.
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>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt
>>> open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and
>>> origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything
>>> suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into.....
>>> something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know
>>> that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I
>>> could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that
>>> there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own.
>>> So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make
>>> it a point to express my gratitude several times a day.
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>>> On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher
>>>> power?
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>>>> On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe
>>>>> that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow
>>>>> connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks
>>>>> and counting my blessings.
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>>>>> On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that
>>>>>> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be
>>>>>> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe
>>> yourself
>>>>>> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would
>>> be
>>>>>> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not
>>>>>> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you
>>>>>> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either
>>>>>> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be
>>> proper
>>>>>> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being
>>>>>> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at
>>>>>> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a
>>>>>> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to
>>>>>> be so.
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>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of
>>>>>>> calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you
>>> have
>>>>>>> written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would
>>>>>>> like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that
>>> there
>>>>>>> is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is
>>> that
>>>>>>> I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel
>>> protected
>>>>>>> from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why
>>> we
>>>>>>> have religions?
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>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say
>>> that on
>>>>>>>> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state
>>> of
>>>>>>>> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about
>>> the
>>>>>>>> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience.
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <
>>> menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say:
>>> What I
>>>>>>>>> feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you
>>> are part
>>>>>>>>> of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are
>>> part of
>>>>>>>>> God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> we live within God life force, am I right?
>>>>>>>>> But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful
>>>>>>>>> feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe
>>> that you
>>>>>>>>> are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be
>>> worthy
>>>>>>>>> enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are
>>> trying
>>>>>>>>> to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to
>>>>>>>>> understand you fully when we reach our goal.
>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the best
>>>>>>>>> Menfranco
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>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit
>>> within me
>>>>>>>>>> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God
>>>>>>>>>> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being
>>> is the
>>>>>>>>>> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is
>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is
>>>>>>>>>> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who
>>> does
>>>>>>>>>> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a
>>> feeling
>>>>>>>>>> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour
>>> enemity for
>>>>>>>>>> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting
>>> others.
>>>>>>>>>> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of
>>>>>>>>>> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful
>>> state. But
>>>>>>>>>> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body
>>> and
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