Saturday, July 30, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Worship

I know the feeling paradox, been there.. Jo. There are always people who will not accept the experiences of others. The happen, they change your life..
Allan

Allan

On 29 jul. 2011, at 22:33, Jo <jojocasamento@gmail.com> wrote:

> No. It's random and has only happened 3 times. I do not meditate or
> even seek spiritual enlightenment. I'm just living my life like
> everyone else.
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> On Jul 29, 2:47 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Jo, i dont doubt that there might be a divine or metaphysical source
>> of that special sense of cognitive "connectedness", i wish we all had
>> that more often too. Do you reflect on where you are in your personal
>> life, within yourself and your relationships, at times when you feel
>> that special sense?
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>> On Jul 29, 3:37 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt
>>> open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and
>>> origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything
>>> suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into.....
>>> something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know
>>> that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I
>>> could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that
>>> there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own.
>>> So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make
>>> it a point to express my gratitude several times a day.
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>>> On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher
>>>> power?
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>>>> On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe
>>>>> that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow
>>>>> connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks
>>>>> and counting my blessings.
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>>>>> On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that
>>>>>> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be
>>>>>> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe yourself
>>>>>> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would be
>>>>>> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not
>>>>>> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you
>>>>>> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either
>>>>>> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be proper
>>>>>> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being
>>>>>> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at
>>>>>> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a
>>>>>> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to
>>>>>> be so.
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>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of
>>>>>>> calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you have
>>>>>>> written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would
>>>>>>> like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that there
>>>>>>> is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is that
>>>>>>> I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel protected
>>>>>>> from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why we
>>>>>>> have religions?
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>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that on
>>>>>>>> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state of
>>>>>>>> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about the
>>>>>>>> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience.
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What I
>>>>>>>>> feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and the
>>>>>>>>> same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are part
>>>>>>>>> of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are part of
>>>>>>>>> God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature and
>>>>>>>>> we live within God life force, am I right?
>>>>>>>>> But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful
>>>>>>>>> feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that you
>>>>>>>>> are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God and
>>>>>>>>> you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be worthy
>>>>>>>>> enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are trying
>>>>>>>>> to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to
>>>>>>>>> understand you fully when we reach our goal.
>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the best
>>>>>>>>> Menfranco
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>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me
>>>>>>>>>> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God
>>>>>>>>>> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being is the
>>>>>>>>>> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is no
>>>>>>>>>> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is
>>>>>>>>>> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who does
>>>>>>>>>> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a feeling
>>>>>>>>>> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour enemity for
>>>>>>>>>> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting others.
>>>>>>>>>> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of
>>>>>>>>>> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful state. But
>>>>>>>>>> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body and
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