On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:45 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
That wasn't a tradition Gabby, but a habit formed through our
miserable weather. This, rather than German early-morning efficiency,
is also why we don't get our towels on the sunbeds. We just don't
expect the sun to shine.
On Jul 28, 5:35 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What has happened to the luvely British tradition of not leaving your car
> when you're out for a picknick? This determination of of not having anyone
> or anything spoiling your fun and the organisational structures built around
> this always achieved goal left me deeply impressed.
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> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In Mexico City you can just wander out into life on the street
> > (evading drug people) and chat or dance with people you don't know.
> > Britain has become insular and everything a commodity. Our typical
> > open space was in places like pubs - at any rate designed around
> > alcohol, cigarettes and music. This has almost died out or is in the
> > violent death-throes of city centre booze miles.
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> > On Jul 27, 1:46 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You sound like quite the world traveler already. What do you mean by
> > > "lack of community"?
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> > > Not that you need any advice, but do it sooner rather than later
> > > unless you travel light. :-)
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> > > On Jul 26, 2:34 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I'd like to live in France again, or most of Europe or even rural UK
> > > > to be honest. I'm tired of the lack of community in England.
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> > > > On Jul 26, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > At any rate, I doubt we will see their like again- ambition, grit,
> > > > > risk, etc. It probably ended after WWII and I think that is a feeling
> > > > > shared by Philip Roth- of all people!
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> > > > > On Jul 25, 8:14 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > I only liked the one song on a double cd! (French pop music) I felt
> > > > > > the same about the "new" French novel- post WWII. I did like Michel
> > > > > > Butor who seemed able to bridge tradition with the new. Even the
> > > > > > professor agreed with me- for a change! At any rate, I like French
> > > > > > food, fashion and elegance. My paternal grandmother was French-
> > sweet
> > > > > > natured, petite, musical, beloved by her 8 sons and 1 daughter and
> > a
> > > > > > contrast to her Scot-Irish mate- who also came from a family of 8
> > sons
> > > > > > and 1 daughter x 2 = 16 sons and 2 daughters via my
> > great-grand-father
> > > > > > and 2 marriages. I reduced the equation to 3 sons and 1 daughter.
> > My
> > > > > > daughter and I were mistaken as French in Paris and people were
> > often
> > > > > > asking us for directions- somehow this pleased me.
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> > > > > > Someone must have taken that Julie London album long ago. I just
> > > > > > remember that one song- "Cry Me a River". I think mother bought the
> > > > > > album- she was a fan of Johnny Raye (?) who also had a weepy song.
> > > > > > Strange- since she wasn't one for ready tears. At any rate, life
> > and
> > > > > > experience take a second look at lyrics, poetry, the arts and
> > > > > > understand in a new way vs. untried youth.
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> > > > > > At least you were making objects-inventing. Think of how people
> > > > > > attempt the same in other areas. Perhaps it is a human curse.
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> > > > > > On Jul 24, 12:41 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Making useless objects out of something obsolete is a British
> > curse.
> > > > > > > I feel now that some massive investment in plant and special
> > equipment
> > > > > > > was needed - and I never made. French pop music after the 50's
> > is
> > > > > > > dire, though I like the more traditional scene there and used to
> > know
> > > > > > > Johnny Halliday. Julie London id one of those women I was 'too
> > young
> > > > > > > to understand'. I like the music now.
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> > > > > > > On Jul 24, 4:38 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I meant vaudeville rather than burlesque. Hmm.
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> > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 10:30 pm, ornamentalmind <
> > ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > I spent some length of time gathering more Cleo Laine
> > songs...like I
> > > > > > > > > did for Sir John's death...but gave up. Those from 'the other
> > side of
> > > > > > > > > the pond' may know her more...she is at least equal in talent
> > IMV.
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> > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:42 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I'm up late - dawn soon. My elder brother and sister had
> > poor taste
> > > > > > > > > > so I got Lonnie Donegan and Sasha Distel singing 'My Old
> > Man's a
> > > > > > > > > > Dustman' and 'Mon Beau Chapeau'. Molded a few 78s into
> > useless plant
> > > > > > > > > > pots.
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> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 7:34 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > These women were of my mother's time but still very
> > popular as I was
> > > > > > > > > > > growing up. For instance, those photos of Peggy Lee
> > reminded me of
> > > > > > > > > > > hats of her day but particularly the "coffee table"
> > reminded me of the
> > > > > > > > > > > '50's. BTW, I still have cartons of those 78's packed
> > away and hear
> > > > > > > > > > > they are becoming hot again. I used to break some- Xavier
> > Cugats (?)
> > > > > > > > > > > on a player that was supposed to flip the records
> > automatically but
> > > > > > > > > > > sometimes missed and know a few Nat King Coles split by
> > overpacking a
> > > > > > > > > > > box. Oh well.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Peggy's theme for this forum might be "Is That All There
> > Is?" :-)
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> > > > > > > > > > > I think one influence was Audrey Hepburn and her
> > particular style.
> > > > > > > > > > > Jackie was okay but could look rigid. Liz Taylor had a
> > terrible
> > > > > > > > > > > fashion sense but who cared? Etc. These things are just
> > toys and
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