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"Both of us are against the sentimental, the obvious, the trite, the
maudlin. Both of us are opposed to all such ideas as come from the
mob, and are polluted by its stupidity: Puritanism, Prohibition,
coldstockery, evangelical Christianity, tin-pot patriotism, the whole
sham of democracy. Both of us, though against socialism and in favor
of capitalism, believe that capitalism in the United States is
ignorant, disreputable and degraded, and that its heroes are bounders.
Both of us believe in the dignity of the fine arts, and regard
Beethoven and Brahms as far greater men than Wilson and Harding. Both
of us stand aloof from the childish nationism that now afflicts the
world, and regard all of its chief spokesmen, in all countries as
scoundrels."
On Jul 29, 8:25 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ive been reading the bros karamazov ... and there at one point when there is
> a discusssion on God and atheism... there is a point made that humanity
> strives for something for the whole community to worship... to be united in
> worship...that all the wars of religion are based on that ideal of community
> worship.. i was thinking about this... and this is the apt post for it...
> tell me what you think......
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Someone should send that suggestion to the gods.
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> > On Jul 29, 5:18 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > To my mind , God doesn't require worship rather commitment to humanity
> > > and compassion towards all creatures.
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> > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe
> > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow
> > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks
> > > > and counting my blessings.
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> > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that
> > > >> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be
> > > >> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe yourself
> > > >> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would be
> > > >> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not
> > > >> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you
> > > >> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either
> > > >> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be proper
> > > >> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being
> > > >> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at
> > > >> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a
> > > >> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to
> > > >> be so.
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> > > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of
> > > >> > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you
> > have
> > > >> > written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would
> > > >> > like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that
> > there
> > > >> > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is
> > that
> > > >> > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel
> > protected
> > > >> > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why
> > we
> > > >> > have religions?
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> > > >> > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that
> > on
> > > >> >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state
> > of
> > > >> >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about
> > the
> > > >> >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience.
>
> > > >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <
> > menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What
> > I
> > > >> >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and
> > the
> > > >> >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are
> > part
> > > >> >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are
> > part of
> > > >> >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature
> > and
> > > >> >> > we live within God life force, am I right?
> > > >> >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful
> > > >> >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that
> > you
> > > >> >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God
> > and
> > > >> >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be
> > worthy
> > > >> >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are
> > trying
> > > >> >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to
> > > >> >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal.
> > > >> >> > I wish you all the best
> > > >> >> > Menfranco
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> > > >> >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within
> > me
> > > >> >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God
> > > >> >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being
> > is the
> > > >> >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is
> > no
> > > >> >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is
> > > >> >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who
> > does
> > > >> >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a
> > feeling
> > > >> >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour
> > enemity for
> > > >> >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting
> > others.
> > > >> >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of
> > > >> >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful
> > state. But
> > > >> >> >> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body
> > and
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