Saturday, July 30, 2011

[Mind's Eye] Re: Worship

Sorry i wasnt a little clearer Jo; i was just wondering if you'd
looked back on those times to see if you could discern a similar
pattern or balance of life's variables at the times when you had that
feeling?

On Jul 29, 9:33 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No. It's random and has only happened 3 times. I do not meditate or
> even seek spiritual enlightenment. I'm just living my life like
> everyone else.
>
> On Jul 29, 2:47 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Jo, i dont doubt that there might be a divine or metaphysical source
> > of that special sense of cognitive "connectedness", i wish we all had
> > that more often too. Do you reflect on where you are in your personal
> > life, within yourself and your relationships, at times when you feel
> > that special sense?
>
> > On Jul 29, 3:37 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt
> > > open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and
> > > origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything
> > > suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into.....
> > > something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know
> > > that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I
> > > could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that
> > > there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own.
> > > So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make
> > > it a point to express my gratitude several times a day.
>
> > > On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher
> > > > power?
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe
> > > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow
> > > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks
> > > > > and counting my blessings.
>
> > > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that
> > > > > > everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be
> > > > > > worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe yourself
> > > > > > to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would be
> > > > > > lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not
> > > > > > separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you
> > > > > > which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either
> > > > > > believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be proper
> > > > > > to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being
> > > > > > and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at
> > > > > > everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a
> > > > > > state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to
> > > > > > be so.
>
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of
> > > > > > > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you have
> > > > > > > written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would
> > > > > > > like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that there
> > > > > > > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is that
> > > > > > > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel protected
> > > > > > > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why we
> > > > > > > have religions?
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that on
> > > > > > >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state of
> > > > > > >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about the
> > > > > > >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience.
>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What I
> > > > > > >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and the
> > > > > > >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are part
> > > > > > >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are part of
> > > > > > >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature and
> > > > > > >> > we live within God life force, am I right?
> > > > > > >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful
> > > > > > >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that you
> > > > > > >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God and
> > > > > > >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be worthy
> > > > > > >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are trying
> > > > > > >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to
> > > > > > >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal.
> > > > > > >> > I wish you all the best
> > > > > > >> > Menfranco
>
> > > > > > >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me
> > > > > > >> >> and the same is true for everyone else.  So , if I think of God
> > > > > > >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being is the
> > > > > > >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is no
> > > > > > >> >> wisdom in worshiping  our creator as albeit we are Him. It is
> > > > > > >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who does
> > > > > > >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a feeling
> > > > > > >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour enemity for
> > > > > > >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting others.
> > > > > > >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of
> > > > > > >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful state. But
> > > > > > >> >> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body and
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