Tuesday, July 26, 2011

[Mind's Eye] Re: how does our sub-conscious works?

The Norwegians and Danes tend to be laid back and will wait a long
time for humour to emerge. Along with the Swedes they are long on
tolerance too, yet these peoples were once the Vikings. They aren't
keen on the foreign influences that immigration has brought, many
feeling their tolerance is being exploited. I hear much the same
there as in Holland and England - whatever it is it's not racism, more
a sense of loss and loss of freedom.

On Jul 26, 12:41 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Like the centuries of various wars? The list is too long...
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> On Jul 25, 8:53 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Yeah, you're right, archytas; i've been to Oslo a couple of times
> > myself and know a few Norwegians, i really dont know of a people with
> > a more open and measured temperament as the Norwegians. To lose that
> > would be the compound tragedy.
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> > And yeah, i really dont get the self mutilation thing in the absence
> > of physical occupation; i guess its some delusional pathology that
> > gets them to a place of paranoia.
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> > On Jul 24, 6:19 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > The Norwegian tragedy really got to me because I've been working in
> > > Oslo - I feel more at home in Scandinavia than the UK.  There's a
> > > personal tolerance we've lost here - yet it's also the case they have
> > > so weird extremists.  Interesting, in a way, that just like most
> > > Muslim terrorists, these people also tend to kill their own.
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> > > On Jul 24, 5:27 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Yes...it's been a sombre weekend; the tragedy in Norway, the death of
> > > > Amy Winehouse; the loss of such great promise. I guess that Freud
> > > > lives through his lifelong works.
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> > > > On Jul 24, 1:46 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Re intentions of parents: The best often go awry, however.
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> > > > > Somehow the massacre in Norway recalled the bombing of Marine barracks
> > > > > in Beruit plus other news and the sultry temps no longer kept my
> > > > > attention. And the death of Lucian Freud, painter. Etc. Heavy thoughts
> > > > > rather than temps.
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> > > > > Thank you- but don't have any Loggins on hand. I sort of quit with
> > > > > Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails et al. But your thought was sweet.
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> > > > > On Jul 23, 6:21 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Interested in the gaps rigsy; but i respect your privacy.
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> > > > > > Parents certainly dont have anything like the power to define or
> > > > > > determine the lives of their children, you're absolutely right; they
> > > > > > just have, or feel they have (or ought to have) an overwhelming
> > > > > > obligation to do everything possible to ensure a healthy, happy, and
> > > > > > prosperous life for their angels.
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> > > > > > Btw, a gentle breeze for those sultry nights..."Copa de Amor", by
> > > > > > Kenny G :)
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> > > > > > On Jul 23, 2:00 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I just gave you the educational framework, paradox. I am guessing my
> > > > > > > father's intention was to provide me with some stability. Filling in
> > > > > > > the spaces is the rest of the story. So going back to school was a
> > > > > > > natural choice later on.
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> > > > > > > I don't think parents have divine power over the lives of their
> > > > > > > children. But I did/do have a tough guardian angel. :-)
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> > > > > > > I think some people enter the military to get their life in order- but
> > > > > > > that's another subject.
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> > > > > > > On Jul 22, 1:26 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I guess its the thing about fathers, rigsy; we need to cover off every
> > > > > > > > one of life's angles for our little angels :)
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> > > > > > > > Sounds like you had a rich and diverse growth path; explains your
> > > > > > > > temperament, i think :)
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> > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 8:16 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > The humidity is lifting today- it's been awful!
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> > > > > > > > > I started boarding school at age 5- kindergarten till I was 10. Age
> > > > > > > > > 7+two months at camp up north. I think both were my father's ideas-
> > > > > > > > > for love of me.  It gave me order, disipline, education,
> > > > > > > > > socialization...to cope with the rest of my life! :-) Later- female
> > > > > > > > > Catholic high school and women's college for two years and I bailed
> > > > > > > > > even though they were going to allow me to graduate in 3 years. A big
> > > > > > > > > mistake. I did sneak off to public school in 8th and 9th grades till
> > > > > > > > > mother put her foot down. I finished up college at the state
> > > > > > > > > university after my divorce then entered grad school but quit after 45
> > > > > > > > > credits. My life would have been very different had my father lived-
> > > > > > > > > it could have been worse! lol
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> > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 11:58 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > Yeah, i read that you're experiencing something of a heatwave; lots of
> > > > > > > > > > tropical cocktail delights then? :)
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> > > > > > > > > > So, you're the part product of a convent, rigsy? Interesting; how did
> > > > > > > > > > you find the experience?
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> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2:39 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > I was happy to find Peggy Lee recorded this song though I haven't
> > > > > > > > > > > heard it- I admired her voice along with Ella Fitzgerald's. This would
> > > > > > > > > > > be a great day for Lee's "Fever". We have a heat index of 113 F.!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I have a pretty good memory of lyrics as mother wasn't a
> > > > > > > > > > > storybook reader and the radio and 78 rpm records were my nursery
> > > > > > > > > > > songs and stories until the nuns read to us or I could read on my own.
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:18 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Phew; got so caught up in your ballad, i was just about to singalong,
> > > > > > > > > > > > caught myself just in time. Visions of my daughter's animated
> > > > > > > > > > > > exlamation..."Yes! I knew it! I told you so!" Lol.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > The admiration's mutual...what?? That does't sound right...? You know
> > > > > > > > > > > > what i mean...: i think i need a lie down....lol.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:30 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can admire men and still not want to be one! No, paradox, "I enjoy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > being a girl..." (song)
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 7:29 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You dont know what you're missing, rigsy! lol.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:53 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could never be a man- in body form or behavior. Thank you, Lord, for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowing me to be a female!!! :-)
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 1:41 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have quite some considerable experience of the emotional
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsiveness of the fairer sex, rigsy :) Personally, i think the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gender difference, if there is one, is more emotional maturity and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > honesty than anything "structural.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:04 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than moods- esp. since
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm not sure if it is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational associations.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding imagination and creativity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably employs the same object
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event "simulation",
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; the process is just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind is that of the rider
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the more confident he/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse gets over time.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my intuitive sense is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of transition of isomorphic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" attribute, but more a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be the result of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, unresolved mental
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; what do you think?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the sc as the hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's my view. Where do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? Or unexplainable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, please.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort of a little closer to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams and phantasies are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious thought, but without the
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