On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:09 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@gmail.com> wrote:
But you have to admit there are humans who haven't the chance to even
consider this type of thinking as their lives are miserable due to
poverty, war, sickness and all other ills. Plus- what does a culture
celebrate? Wealth? Power? Etc.? You can hardly fault some for buying a
false self and image if that is what their culture teaches them, can
you? It takes a brave rebel to contradict society or challenge group
thought.
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
On May 2, 12:20 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the selfish would truly search their self, they'd quickly die out.
> Problem is how they don't see themselves but see themselves in the others
> with the poor others not knowing that they are not taken for themselves but
> for someone else. My explanation.
>
>> > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, DarkwaterBlight <douglas.bli...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> > at the first glance of your reply came a thought to my mind about
> > collective consciousness...rather a question...does the collective
> > consciousness exist independently...what does it mean exactly...to put it
> > crudely is it the realisation that you are not the only phenomena..but what
> > i feel is....it is very difficult to transcend ones own person...but is it
> > important....why do we really get irritated with self absorbed or self
> > seeking people....why do we condemn selfishness..in any sense...are we so
> > insecure as to feel deprived because of that ...or is it something more.. i
> > hope i make sense.. and i hope you get waht i am trying to ask...i would
> > like all to answer...cos i really want to know....
>
>
> >> This take appeals to my understanding. Perpetually changing, evolving
> >> and reforming. Input has an outcome and causes an expanded "mind
> >> space", if you will. Is logic all logical and what is to be said about
> >> rationalizing the "irrational"? Should my thinking be correct by the
> >> standards of others or to my own? What of "raising the bar" in
> >> consciousness and of a paradigm shift to a more correct thinking of
> >> our "collective mind" ? Of all that goes into into thought and mind is
> >> this not the desired effect?
>
> >> On Apr 30, 9:23 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > might thought be colored by the mind that engages it ....what is the
> >> realm
> >> > of pure thought that you mention here .... is it logic and
> >> > rationalisation...do you mean the method of employing that
> >> thought...because
> >> > ....knowing...percieving something for the first time the mind will
> >> > automatically fall back on the things it thinks it does know....
>
> >> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Chad Moore <nis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Knowledge unites, in being or in identity. Thinking separates, in
> >> > > subject-object relationship.
> >> > > Knowing has no place in the ordinary thought process. Thinking about
> >> > > something
> >> > > which has to be known is wrong, since it moves in a vicious circle.
> >> You
> >> > > cannot think
> >> > > of anything you have not known. Such thinking can never take you to
> >> the
> >> > > Truth.
> >> > > But when you direct your thought to something (say yourself) which you
> >> have
> >> > > otherwise
> >> > > visualized, the thought loses its own characteristics and limits, and
> >> > > stands
> >> > > revealed as that Self (Consciousness) itself. Thought is thus reduced
> >> into
> >> > > its essence.
>
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