thing to comprehend. Not because it is hard to understand, but
because it is hard to seperate Gods will from mankinds words.
On May 26, 11:30 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But so many religions depend on the interaction, transformations of
> human and divine in spite of/because of what the God/gods might
> represent. There would be no need for faith in the divine otherwise,
> would there? What purpose does evil have- or does it have one?
>
> On May 26, 6:06 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
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> > As I say I fail to see the differance between putting this way, or
> > RP's way or my way. Same idea differant words.
>
> > RP says that God is imminent but this does not mean that I am God, and
> > I agree with him, but I'm sure he'll agree that without finding God
> > within, you stand no chance in finding God without.
>
> > It is a bold statement, but I honestly do try to see God in all
> > things, yep me included, and you too.
>
> > Haha but of course it is hard to find God in some people.
>
> > On May 26, 10:46 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > lee , o.r. , i think iknow what r.p. is getting at , forget the
> > > ocean , think of the stars , many different stars ( white red blue
> > > giant dwarf ect ) even the similar stars are different from each
> > > other , but they are part of the same whole , the galaxy , and though
> > > each galaxy is similar , and yet different , they are part of the same
> > > whole , the universe ....... if i were a glass of water id be a square
> > > glass with dull edges , ha ... ha .... :[
>
> > > leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > > I fail to see the differance?
>
> > > > On May 26, 7:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Instead of considering ourselves to be parts of the Whole , it would
> > > > > be better in my opinion to consider ourselves differing images of the
> > > > > Absolute in vessels of differing make and shape. Water in many vessels
> > > > > of differing sizes and shapes in a ocean is the same , but it is not a
> > > > > part of the ocean --it is actually the ocean. The illusion is the
> > > > > vessel and not the water.
>
> > > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, ornamentalmind
>
> > > > > <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > While I greatly appreciate emanationism on many levels, to ignore the
> > > > > > consubstantial aspect of 'the many' simply ignores the experience of
> > > > > > many humans. We have the ability to think and by thinking break down
> > > > > > 'the one' into its component parts (as a thought, not an actuality).
>
> > > > > >http://www.iep.utm.edu/emanatio/
>
> > > > > > On May 25, 8:50 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing
> > > > > >> up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The
> > > > > >> truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence
> > > > > >> identifiable to our understanding.
> > > > > >> The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world
> > > > > >> is a proof of the Self.
>
> > > > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > "Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
> > > > > >> > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all that
> > > > > >> > is immortal. "
> > > > > >> > I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one
> > > > > >> > sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or
> > > > > >> > nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures inextricably?
>
> > > > > >> > I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a
> > > > > >> > puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature which
> > > > > >> > are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less brilliant
> > > > > >> > and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through
> > > > > >> > nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look.
>
> > > > > >> > On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >> It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The
> > > > > >> >> world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes
> > > > > >> >> over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the
> > > > > >> >> same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same
> > > > > >> >> cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One ,
> > > > > >> >> but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One "
> > > > > >> >> when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our
> > > > > >> >> consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
> > > > > >> >> matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all
> > > > > >> >> that is immortal.
>
> > > > > >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >>> How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world
> > > > > >> >>> as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from
> > > > > >> >>> self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it
> > > > > >> >>> true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a
> > > > > >> >>> dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view,
> > > > > >> >>> all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and
> > > > > >> >>> experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual
> > > > > >> >>> perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a
> > > > > >> >>> beginning or end.
>
> > > > > >> >>> On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >>>> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed
> > > > > >> >>>> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality
> > > > > >> >>>> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains
> > > > > >> >>>> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God
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