[Mind's Eye] Re: Just a thought...

yeah...we dont see others for who they are..we see them for who we
think they are...but...though ...i am not sure i believe it
completely..but it convinces vaguely nevertheless...unconsciously do
believe it...no it confuses me again...when you love ...deeply...do
you finally see the other person and love them like yourself...know
them in the same breath...or is it again because we see ourselves in
them..i dont know...because i have not really experienced it....to
see.someone...like the naavi people say in the avatar movie

On May 3, 1:30 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With collective consciousness you mean this group-think programme à la
> Molly's [mission] What do YOU think? Na, you're right, PSK is definitely
> different from that.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:04 AM, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > PSK selfishness arouses discontent because it is contrary to
> > collective consciousness ,   try reading the meditations of marcus
> > auralius chapter 2 verse 1 from the harvard classics .
>
> > gabbydott wrote:
> > > From a top-down perspective this is correct. But I understood that PSK
> > asked
> > > for individual responses from each of us.
>
> > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:09 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > But you have to admit there are humans who haven't the chance to even
> > > > consider this type of thinking as their lives are miserable due to
> > > > poverty, war, sickness and all other ills. Plus- what does a culture
> > > > celebrate? Wealth? Power? Etc.? You can hardly fault some for buying a
> > > > false self and image if that is what their culture teaches them, can
> > > > you? It takes a brave rebel to contradict society or challenge group
> > > > thought.
>
> > > > On May 2, 12:20 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > If the selfish would truly search their self, they'd quickly die out.
> > > > > Problem is how they don't see themselves but see themselves in the
> > others
> > > > > with the poor others not knowing that they are not taken for
> > themselves
> > > > but
> > > > > for someone else. My explanation.
>
> > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM, pol.science kid <
> > r.freeb...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > at the first glance of your reply came a thought to my mind about
> > > > > > collective consciousness...rather a question...does the collective
> > > > > > consciousness exist independently...what does it mean exactly...to
> > put
> > > > it
> > > > > > crudely is it the realisation that you are not the only
> > phenomena..but
> > > > what
> > > > > > i feel is....it is very difficult to transcend ones own
> > person...but is
> > > > it
> > > > > > important....why do we really get irritated with self absorbed or
> > self
> > > > > > seeking people....why do we condemn selfishness..in any sense...are
> > we
> > > > so
> > > > > > insecure as to feel deprived because of that ...or is it something
> > > > more.. i
> > > > > > hope i make sense.. and i hope you get waht i am trying to ask...i
> > > > would
> > > > > > like all to answer...cos i really want to know....
>
> > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, DarkwaterBlight <
> > > > douglas.bli...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > >> This take appeals to my understanding. Perpetually changing,
> > evolving
> > > > > >> and reforming. Input has an outcome and causes an expanded "mind
> > > > > >> space", if you will. Is logic all logical and what is to be said
> > about
> > > > > >> rationalizing the "irrational"? Should my thinking be correct by
> > the
> > > > > >> standards of others or to my own? What of "raising the bar" in
> > > > > >> consciousness and of a paradigm shift to a more correct thinking
> > of
> > > > > >> our "collective mind" ? Of all that goes into into thought and
> > mind is
> > > > > >> this not the desired effect?
>
> > > > > >> On Apr 30, 9:23 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > might thought be colored by the mind that engages it ....what is
> > the
> > > > > >> realm
> > > > > >> > of pure thought that you mention here .... is it logic and
> > > > > >> > rationalisation...do you mean the method of employing that
> > > > > >> thought...because
> > > > > >> > ....knowing...percieving something for the first time the mind
> > will
> > > > > >> > automatically fall back on the things it thinks it does know....
>
> > > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Chad Moore <nis...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >  Knowledge unites, in being or in identity. Thinking
> > separates, in
> > > > > >> > > subject-object relationship.
> > > > > >> > > Knowing has no place in the ordinary thought process. Thinking
> > > > about
> > > > > >> > > something
> > > > > >> > > which has to be known is wrong, since it moves in a vicious
> > > > circle.
> > > > > >> You
> > > > > >> > > cannot think
> > > > > >> > > of anything you have not known. Such thinking can never take
> > you
> > > > to
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > Truth.
> > > > > >> > > But when you direct your thought to something (say yourself)
> > which
> > > > you
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> > > otherwise
> > > > > >> > > visualized, the thought loses its own characteristics and
> > limits,
> > > > and
> > > > > >> > > stands
> > > > > >> > > revealed as that Self (Consciousness) itself. Thought is thus
> > > > reduced
> > > > > >> into
> > > > > >> > > its essence.
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