Friday, April 29, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Guys? We need to talk.

i didnt go through the entire post...but i vote for gabbs

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:13 PM, gabbydott <> wrote:
Let me try to show you by defining this Google group "Minds Eye" as our common reality. It comes in the form of the English language. Now the English language is not my native language, which qualifies me for not having been exposed to a prescriptive moral when it comes to violating innate English language principles and rules. There is no shadow in that area that I need to be shown to learn to embrace. Coming from a German background, a statement from Chris in which he doesn't reflect his role in this community and the impact he has had to shape the present form of it - only saying: I'm out of it, it doesn't matter to me, it's your community -  is like me here in Berlin saying: Hitler was not German, he was Austrian (check his birth certificate for factual evidence) therefore you Austrians are the root of all evil, it doesn't matter to me. Coming back to viewing the prescriptive power of language at work, note how Chris has established structures in his new/old project in which he alone controls the grammar of the site and the grammar of the foreign content. The grammar of a language is its bones with the words as the surrounding flesh - it's not the dark shadow that you can make disappear by hanging the lamp right above your head. And yet Chris has never avoided an open argument with me over what the world should like, which is why he will remain my American hero, and Orn and Molly cowards. 

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Chuck Bowling <> wrote:
What is a prescriptive moral?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM, gabbydott <> wrote:
Where does that leave the prescriptive moral which I find is really under discussion here? 

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Chuck Bowling <> wrote:

The term "morality" can be used either

  1. descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or,
    1. some other group, such as a religion, or
    2. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or
  2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.
The above definition of morality was taken from the Standford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

It seems to me that while the interpretation of the individual may be subjective, the overall goal of a code of conduct is to objectify behavioral expectations within the group or society.

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:14 AM, <> wrote:

In short then a flawed human is flawed only on measures of subjective
morality.  I contend that there exists no such thing as objective

\--/ Peace


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