Heh Tao, it may seem, but I have a feeling there is more than one round in Chuck. As with most people who are capable of reasoning and being reasonable there is limitless potential to refine terms. Most give up on the duration, or back and forth personality clashes but OM has some obvious stamina. It could go on like this for hundreds of posts before reaching a probable stalemate or one of the two just gets bored and decides it would be more fun to shoot the shit or have a drink. :D Forgive the gross boxing vernacular.