Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: life

If you are going to do it and especially putting your self through the process,,  the get maximum benefit  Bryan  All I can say is follow the rules,  starting with don't drink or drug. otherwise you will be throwing your money away.

Allan

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM, the taoist shaman <bryanobo@gmail.com> wrote:

just because i put my self through drug re hab doesnt make me
alcoholic, i can have a few then stop when i want , not EVERYONE has
to be sober to be happy. but for some it does seem that way

sobriety is a state of mind not blood

rigsy03 wrote:
> It depends on the group. Was in Al-Anon also and believe those mates
> are just as screwed up as the user. One is dealing with a system that
> affects family, business, etc. and is not an instant cure as there are
> usually problems galore left in the wake. There is no "instant
> cure"! :-) Plus- there are those you must leave behind- some people
> cannot handle sober happiness. :-)
>
> On Mar 29, 7:55 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > wasnt trying to bash u , i just got out 3 month volentary inpatent
> > rehab , still love smoken-tripping  though , acceptance can be good
> > but it can be bad - look at capitalism disscussion - 12 step is good
> > for all people
> >
> >
> >
> > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > 31 years of sobriety is going to have an influence.  I use it as a reference
> > > point,, but it is not the basis of my beliefs it is a reference point for
> > > trying to look at things clearly. It is an excellent set of guidelines.
> > > Allan
> >
> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > allin i thought your thoughts sounded like that of an AA , all in all
> > > > good program , you told me to be watchfull of influence by thoughs
> > > > with an agenda i tell u the same
> >
> > > > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > > > Very good ideas Ash Living a health life style is a good way to live.
> >
> > > > > If you are having problems sorting things out a good set of guidelines is
> > > > > the 12 steps of AA..  they are great for sorting anything out.. I know I
> > > > > have been sober now for over 31 years.. (writing that it is unbelievable
> > > > to
> > > > > me.. and I have done it. thanks to a whole lot of people who put up my
> > > > shit
> > > > > and helped me sort it out.)
> > > > > Rigs ideas are good.
> > > > > Allan
> >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Good idea Rigsy, speaking of diet I noticed caffeine has had a large
> > > > impact
> > > > > > on things (esp. coffee). So today I'll cut the coffee at lunch and from
> > > > > > there just green tea and chocolate. :p
> >
> > > > > > You know if I wasn't so damned hardheaded things would be going better.
> > > > > > Exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking so much, more family time, etc.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > > all for the advices! :)
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  (
> > > > >   )
> > > > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
> >
> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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I_D Allan

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,