Re: Mind's Eye Globalization, a threat to mankind

That is true Rigsy a monastic life and the rest of the world are a
stark contrast.. normal life should a little more to the interior life
and away from the selfishness of the world.
Allan

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have several of his books which I read a long while back. The main
> thing is to develop an interior life from which love and grace can
> spring. This contrasts to a very external-based worldliness. A very
> strange ending to his life.
>
> On Nov 19, 7:03 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't think that isolating like the Amish (who lead their
>> ethnocentric group with control measures) or focusing on the ills of
>> government, law enforcement or narrow economic pictures give a clear
>> picture of what globalization means to humanity. Ultimately, what is
>> seen in separation, separates us. I feel toward humanity as Thomas
>> Merton:
>>
>> "There is in all things an inexhaustible sweetness and purity, a
>> silence that is a fountain of action and joy. It rises up in wordless
>> gentleness and flows out of me from unseen roots of all created
>> beings."
>>
>> The unseen roots unite us, and globalization is spirit in action in
>> the "rising up." How this manifests in our view is largely dependent
>> on our own given focus. If it is dismal we need to feel, we will see
>> the dismal every time. It doesn't change the fact that heaven on
>> earth is ours for the taking. More spirit in action.
>>
>> "It doesn't matter which you heard, the holy or the broken
>> Hallelujah." Both holy and broken co-exist. Both are holy in the
>> unification.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 6:49 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > From my perspective this reborn metaphor is misleading, it leads you to the
>> > next level of happy self betrayal. The Amish community is a wonderful
>> > example of what it looks like when an evolving society allows a small group
>> > to conserve themselves in their own bubble and protects them from natural
>> > updating processes. I believe there is better ways to not forget the values
>> > of America's European history.
>>
>> > 2012/11/19 andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > > In my opinion opting out of their game is more like being reborn than of
>> > > going to your own funeral. The less defendant we are on others or on
>> > > things, the more free we are. We have grown to be so defendant on the
>> > > system that we are afraid that we can not survive without it. The Amish
>> > > community is an example that clearly demonstrates that we can survive and
>> > > even thrive without the system that I refer to as globalization. It is
>> > > dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket.
>>
>> > > On Monday, November 19, 2012 11:39:27 AM UTC+1, gabbydott wrote:
>>
>> > >> It really is that simple. It is like going to your own funeral.
>>
>> > >> 2012/11/19 andrew vecsey <andrew...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > >> With drugs and mass media they control our desires and with drugs and
>> > >>> schools they control our thinking. The only simple solution I can think of
>> > >>> is not to play their game. Just refuse to buy what they offer to sell. .
>>
>> > >>> On Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:47:11 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> globalization can be very beneficial and granted there are many self
>> > >>>> centered individuals and corporations that have that have little
>> > >>>> concern for others or our world.. but one thing that is coming out of
>> > >>>> it they can not control what people thing and desire their world to
>> > >>>> be.. Little by little I see people reclaiming the dreams of a better
>> > >>>> world.
>> > >>>> Oh well what can you expect from an old hippie
>> > >>>> Allan
>>
>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> > Andrew is obviously right when one considers where our wealth is
>> > >>>> > ending-up. This group is broadly parochial, white and barely
>> > >>>> > understands what it excludes and how. We are reliant on centralised
>> > >>>> > technology that is soon to force us to a format we don't want.
>> > >>>> > Rigsy's question is about right. Previous globalisation was
>> > >>>> > colonising and I suspect most of what we are witnessing now is in
>> > >>>> that
>> > >>>> > model. It would be good to make the move in emphasis Molly suggests,
>> > >>>> > but the signs in the underlying business model indicate the opposite
>> > >>>> > to me - currently remaining in advertising and making a killing in
>> > >>>> > market share. There is another (dated) form of globalisation in the
>> > >>>> > phrase 'workers of the world unite' and it must be clear this has
>> > >>>> been
>> > >>>> > resisted by the powerful other than in their own 'guilds'. My list
>> > >>>> on
>> > >>>> > what globalisation is would be long and rather vague - including
>> > >>>> > teaching foreign students with bare English textbook answers I kn ow
>> > >>>> > to be rot. James Bond has globalised but not decent water, food and
>> > >>>> > housing for all - let alone freedom from the kind of idiots on all
>> > >>>> > sides who keep such stuff as the Arab-Israeli conflict going.
>>
>> > >>>> > We need realistic optimism - but this means embracing really bad news
>> > >>>> > on climate (worse than we think) and history (much worse than we
>> > >>>> > think) in order to see how we get some decent stuff done amongst the
>> > >>>> > enemies of open society. Globalisation is getting very real in the
>> > >>>> > sense of telepresence (I could be operated on in Bolton by a surgeon
>> > >>>> > in Madras) and other varieties of the embodiment of knowledge that
>> > >>>> > will allow remote and even home manufacturing.
>>
>> > >>>> > Postmodernism (which I regard as the move to modernism we have never
>> > >>>> > had) is bringing about a legitimation crisis. I am broadly (but not
>> > >>>> > completely) free of the religious dross taught in youth and chronic
>> > >>>> > copy-teachers who told me Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 53AD and
>> > >>>> > that humans have 24 pairs of chromosomes like other apes. To
>> > >>>> discover
>> > >>>> > the extent of ideological dross in my education I travelled. The
>> > >>>> > Internet's supposedly global reach does not even compare. How could
>> > >>>> > anything be more parochial that Faceflop and Twatter? What would be
>> > >>>> > want to globalise - does anyone ever ask us? How about freedom from
>> > >>>> > work as means of income?
>>
>> > >>>> > On 18 Nov, 14:11, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> >> I disagree, Andrew, and take a view more like Alan's. Globalization
>> > >>>> >> occurs when more folks operate from a world-centric life view (not
>> > >>>> ego-
>> > >>>> >> centric or ethno-centric), more countries are trading goods and
>> > >>>> >> services, and more folks have access to goods and services from
>> > >>>> other
>> > >>>> >> countries. This group is comprised of folks from many different
>> > >>>> parts
>> > >>>> >> of the world. A good example.
>>
>> > >>>> >> On Nov 18, 4:09 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> >> > Globalization is reverting to the ownership and control of
>> > >>>> everything world
>> > >>>> >> > wide by the few. That is the danger of it all.
>>
>> > >>>> >> > On Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:41:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic
>> > >>>> wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > I think realistically globalization is revering to the access to
>> > >>>> >> > > everything world wide
>> > >>>> >> > > Allan
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com<javascript:>>
>> > >>>> >> > > wrote:
>> > >>>> >> > > > But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract
>> > >>>> term.
>> > >>>> >> > > > (Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined
>> > >>>> by the
>> > >>>> >> > > > strongest?)
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > > On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> >> > > >> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that
>> > >>>> can get
>> > >>>> >> > > >> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000
>> > >>>> Euro and
>> > >>>> >> > > >> her mothers was just as bad.. was never told the exact
>> > >>>> price.. but
>> > >>>> >> > > >> it was out of the finest silk..
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those
>> > >>>> benefits
>> > >>>> >> > > >> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are
>> > >>>> extremely
>> > >>>> >> > > >> selfish and uncaring... Greedy is to soft a word for their
>> > >>>> >> > > >> activities..
>> > >>>> >> > > >> Allan
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major
>> > >>>> powers/
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities
>> > >>>> among the
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our
>> > >>>> differences
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to
>> > >>>> watch and
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men
>> > >>>> aren't bad
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the
>> > >>>> "other" seemed
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess.
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> The big question is what is globalising. In part this is
>> > >>>> stuff we
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> don't want. We are still haunted by superstition, sexism
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> imperialism. I'd like to see more of our economies about
>> > >>>> building
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited
>> > >>>> vision of
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this. Disease is likely
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in
>> > >>>> manufacturing
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> for war.
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference.
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> >> > > cultural, and
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe
>> > >>>> dream.
>>
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an
>> > >>>> emotional -
>> > >>>> >> > > mental thing...
>> > >>>> >> > > >> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal
>> > >>>> dimensions of any
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