Re: Mind's Eye Globalization, a threat to mankind

It is to bad the governments really don't hands on the illegal money
and use it to reduce taxes.. that tax the selfish people at a fair
higher rate.. that is not one they think as fair.
Allan

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:26 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
> The great hope is that we'll somehow get together in the right
> knowledge I guess Allan. I often think the drugs market (illegal)
> sums up globalisation. The producer countries retain only 3% of the
> total spend, the money is laundered through banks and is now even
> being used to repatriate Swiss accounts for an 8% fee.
> I don't see the situation as hopeless, but can't believe we can do
> much without changing the social contract substantially. Much
> globalisation is about races to the bottom on wages and such matters
> as bank and business regulation.
>
> On Nov 18, 8:47 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> globalization can be very beneficial and granted there are many self
>> centered individuals and corporations that have that have little
>> concern for others or our world.. but one thing that is coming out of
>> it they can not control what people thing and desire their world to
>> be.. Little by little I see people reclaiming the dreams of a better
>> world.
>> Oh well what can you expect from an old hippie
>> Allan
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>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Andrew is obviously right when one considers where our wealth is
>> > ending-up. This group is broadly parochial, white and barely
>> > understands what it excludes and how. We are reliant on centralised
>> > technology that is soon to force us to a format we don't want.
>> > Rigsy's question is about right. Previous globalisation was
>> > colonising and I suspect most of what we are witnessing now is in that
>> > model. It would be good to make the move in emphasis Molly suggests,
>> > but the signs in the underlying business model indicate the opposite
>> > to me - currently remaining in advertising and making a killing in
>> > market share. There is another (dated) form of globalisation in the
>> > phrase 'workers of the world unite' and it must be clear this has been
>> > resisted by the powerful other than in their own 'guilds'. My list on
>> > what globalisation is would be long and rather vague - including
>> > teaching foreign students with bare English textbook answers I kn ow
>> > to be rot. James Bond has globalised but not decent water, food and
>> > housing for all - let alone freedom from the kind of idiots on all
>> > sides who keep such stuff as the Arab-Israeli conflict going.
>>
>> > We need realistic optimism - but this means embracing really bad news
>> > on climate (worse than we think) and history (much worse than we
>> > think) in order to see how we get some decent stuff done amongst the
>> > enemies of open society. Globalisation is getting very real in the
>> > sense of telepresence (I could be operated on in Bolton by a surgeon
>> > in Madras) and other varieties of the embodiment of knowledge that
>> > will allow remote and even home manufacturing.
>>
>> > Postmodernism (which I regard as the move to modernism we have never
>> > had) is bringing about a legitimation crisis. I am broadly (but not
>> > completely) free of the religious dross taught in youth and chronic
>> > copy-teachers who told me Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 53AD and
>> > that humans have 24 pairs of chromosomes like other apes. To discover
>> > the extent of ideological dross in my education I travelled. The
>> > Internet's supposedly global reach does not even compare. How could
>> > anything be more parochial that Faceflop and Twatter? What would be
>> > want to globalise - does anyone ever ask us? How about freedom from
>> > work as means of income?
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>> > On 18 Nov, 14:11, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I disagree, Andrew, and take a view more like Alan's. Globalization
>> >> occurs when more folks operate from a world-centric life view (not ego-
>> >> centric or ethno-centric), more countries are trading goods and
>> >> services, and more folks have access to goods and services from other
>> >> countries. This group is comprised of folks from many different parts
>> >> of the world. A good example.
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>> >> On Nov 18, 4:09 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> > Globalization is reverting to the ownership and control of everything world
>> >> > wide by the few. That is the danger of it all.
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>> >> > On Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:41:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
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>> >> > > I think realistically globalization is revering to the access to
>> >> > > everything world wide
>> >> > > Allan
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>> >> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com <javascript:>>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract term.
>> >> > > > (Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined by the
>> >> > > > strongest?)
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>> >> > > > On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that can get
>> >> > > >> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000 Euro and
>> >> > > >> her mothers was just as bad.. was never told the exact price.. but
>> >> > > >> it was out of the finest silk..
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>> >> > > >> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those benefits
>> >> > > >> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are extremely
>> >> > > >> selfish and uncaring... Greedy is to soft a word for their
>> >> > > >> activities..
>> >> > > >> Allan
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>> >> > > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major powers/
>> >> > > >> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities among the
>> >> > > >> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our differences
>> >> > > >> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to watch and
>> >> > > >> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men aren't bad
>> >> > > >> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the "other" seemed
>> >> > > >> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess.
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>> >> > > >> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> The big question is what is globalising. In part this is stuff we
>> >> > > >> >> don't want. We are still haunted by superstition, sexism and
>> >> > > >> >> imperialism. I'd like to see more of our economies about building
>> >> > > >> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited vision of
>> >> > > >> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this. Disease is likely
>> >> > > >> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in manufacturing
>> >> > > >> >> for war.
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>> >> > > >> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >> > > >> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference.
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>> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> > > >> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political and
>> >> > > cultural, and
>> >> > > >> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe dream.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an emotional -
>> >> > > mental thing...
>> >> > > >> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal dimensions of any
>> >> > > thing
>> >> > > >> >> > > extends ... from indifference to emotional values, covering
>> >> > > almost
>> >> > > >> >> > > everything existential in society, politics and economics ...
>> >> > > and to
>> >> > > >> >> > > intellectual conviction, which is singularly absent in
>> >> > > everything
>> >> > > >> >> > > experiential that individuals bring into their attitudes and
>> >> > > everyday
>> >> > > >> >> > > decision-making at their present level evolution.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > One of the most intellectual calls was issued by Marx. No one
>> >> > > could stand
>> >> > > >> >> > > up to its rigour ... not the champions and subscribers, not the
>> >> > > staus
>> >> > > >> >> > > quoist rest of the world. Capitalism stays, because it factors
>> >> > > in our
>> >> > > >> >> > > emotional drives, not because it is most just and fair to the
>> >> > > weakest in
>> >> > > >> >> > > our midst !
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>> >> > > >> >> > > Au revoir ...
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>> >> > > >> >> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:15:49 PM UTC+5:30, Lee Douglas
>> >> > > wrote:
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>> >> > > >> >> > > > Meh! As you know I'm all for freedom of movement, live where
>> >> > > you like, if
>> >> > > >> >> > > > much of India wish to migrate to The USA and settle in the Mid
>> >> > > West then go
>> >> > > >> >> > > > to it. However with around only 3-5% of Earth's land mass
>> >> > > populated and
>> >> > > >> >> > > > with an increasing amount of that population living in urban
>> >> > > environments I
>> >> > > >> >> > > > daresay that India has much land of it's own in which it's
>> >> > > residents can
>> >> > > >> >> > > > settle. Even when much of the land is gone, we are in fact
>> >> > > making strides
>> >> > > >> >> > > > for sea based habitat.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > > Over population is a concern, much, much more for reasons of
>> >> > > food
>> >> > > >> >> > > > and energy production though than any reasons of not enough
>> >> > > land mass.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > > On Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:15:16 UTC, Allan Heretic
>> >> > > wrote:
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>> >> > > >> >> > > >> Okay there is large sections of farm land in the Mid west
>> >> > > maybe we
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> can help the people of India resettle into that area..??
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> Allan
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>> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Lee Douglas <
>> >> > > leerev...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Umm myself I can't see globalisation as anything but a good
>> >> > > thing. The
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > sooner we find that our cultural differences do not matter
>> >> > > and we learn
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> to
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > judge the individual(as opposed to the group) the better as
>> >> > > far as I'm
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > concerned. Ultimately it will take global working together
>> >> > > to sort out
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> the
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > worlds ills.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Overpopulation is a concern, but to too much of one at this
>> >> > > moment in
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> time,
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > there are huge tracts of land still to be settled.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:22:17 UTC, archytas wrote:
>>
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> One of the Faust stories more or less predicts the
>> >> > > mechanism for the
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> rise of Nazi Germany including the funding.
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>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On 13 Nov, 19:33, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Wetlands are very important. The recovery work here was
>> >> > > done
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> centuries
>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ago.. and here we are very eco awe.
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