On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:34 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
The female is only half the equation and gets no extra points for
being a vehicle, imo. Motherhood was boosted by pagans and Christians
to make up for the patriarchy which designed and ruled the world- and
still does in spite of women's lib. Note your use of the male pronoun
with your examples, for instance- it's sub.cs and automatic.But I get
distracted by stray thoughts- I was wondering the other day if
abortion is a form of human sacrifice, for instance.
On Mar 18, 6:24 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simply for simplicity reasons, it's a strong image. I might have said: the
> author and his book, the founder and his company, the developer and his
> creation, the scientist and his findings, etc.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Why take the perspective from the mother? I don't believe in
> > reincarnation but do find family traits acceptable. One friend joked-
> > with love- that my mother's cord was really an anchor chain from a
> > battleship.
>
> > On Mar 18, 8:17 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Rigs, this interpretation looks too short sighted. Or the other way
> > > round - you know what I mean. Anyways, I would postulate that the so
> > called
> > > afterlife (a too two-dimensional translation by the way) begins as soon
> > as
> > > the navel cord of whatever you accept to be your baby has been cut. In
> > that
> > > respect or from that perspective is commonly achievable to be able to
> > > oversee and remember even more that one afterlife.
>
> > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I believe the memories remaining with the living or creations left
> > > > behind- even our genetic codes- are our afterlife. The lure of an
> > > > afterlife is to give hope to those who found real life pretty
> > > > miserable plus provides a rationale for various religious and moral
> > > > rules. What was the sale of Indulgences during the Middle Ages except
> > > > a form of a protection racket?
>
> > > > On Mar 18, 3:58 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Some people believe in an after-life because some people claim to
> > > > > remember past births , experience is on their side , they say. You
> > > > > might as well believe in ghosts and ghouls because some people claim
> > > > > to have experienced them. So much for experience !
>
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > How do you know that, RP, when your dead ? Have you ever died
> > before ?
>
> > > > > > We all have a body and a mind. Based on its capabilities, or
> > > > > > incapabilities, what are we talking about ? Nature ? We hardly know
> > > > > > what, how much, how far, in what ways... it works, in all the 10 to
> > > > > > power 22 star worlds. What we know of it can hardly determine what
> > we
> > > > > > do know about it, quite as the past can hardly define the future !
>
> > > > > > Likewise, God. WTF are we talking about ? Now this could seem rude
> > but
> > > > > > should make perfect sense in the context. As in what is this God ?
> > > > > > What constitutes it ? How does it relate to that other fog word "
> > > > > > Nature " ?
>
> > > > > > I sincerely believe such threads are started on account of
> > something
> > > > > > diseased within us !
>
> > > > > > Healthy people should be talking of matters they know or have
> > > > > > experienced. One can then opine, extrapolate, theorise... and
> > still be
> > > > > > understandable.
>
> > > > > > On Mar 17, 11:26 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Good
> > > > > >> Allan
> > > > > >> On Mar 17, 2012 5:28 PM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > As long as I am alive I am conscious of the world and myself ,
> > but
> > > > when I
> > > > > >> > am dead I reach a state of permanent unconsciousness , a state
> > of
> > > > supreme
> > > > > >> > peace where nothing disturbs me , a sort of nirvana. that is the
> > > > ultimate
> > > > > >> > state from which nobody returns.
>
> > > > > >> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 3:32:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ash wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >> This does make some sense to me RP so I hope my question
> > doesn't
> > > > sound
> > > > > >> >> critical. For me thinking in this way causes a massive amount
> > of
> > > > > >> >> difficulty, as it sounds like immutable truths, so I have to
> > > > translate
> > > > > >> >> away the language to get glints of my own thinking through. We
> > > > could
> > > > > >> >> easily call my predicament not seeing the forest for the
> > trees, and
> > > > > >> >> that would be a fitting if not limited statement. In my mind I
> > > > prefer
> > > > > >> >> to start with the will representing laws of nature which are
> > > > dynamic,
> > > > > >> >> and work more along an opportunistic heuristic. For me it is
> > > > obvious
> > > > > >> >> that some people talk about an n-dimensional entity, but n is
> > an
> > > > > >> >> aspect of scope in one's perspective. If n is potentially
> > infinite,
> > > > > >> >> then the truths may have strength but are more optimizations
> > than
> > > > > >> >> static ontology. I am wondering if there is some useful
> > perspective
> > > > > >> >> that can be used in my situation, or perhaps it is a hopeless
> > case.
> > > > > >> >> Perhaps you have something to help me?
>
> > > > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:21 AM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > Neil , there is no difference. The universe is not nature
> > but a
> > > > > >> >> > manifestation of Nature or God. It is unconscious but not
> > dead,
> > > > as
> > > > > >> >> > that would have meant no life , further it has to be
> > unconscious
> > > > as
> > > > > >> >> > the conscious is always bound to certain limits and is dual.
>
> > > > > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> That's a little bit different - and I'm in agreement. Some
> > > > scientists
> > > > > >> >> >> have suggested we could make a universe with life
> > conditions in
> > > > the
> > > > > >> >> >> laboratory - still leaving us with issues about beginnings.
> > > > Science
> > > > > >> >> >> fiction wise one can imagine making such universes in order
> > to
> > > > travel
> > > > > >> >> >> in time in them to discover more on how we were made - by
> > > > occupying
> > > > > >> >> >> earlier stages of them. I tend to think of the unconscious
> > as
> > > > what
> > > > > >> >> >> isn't in rational consciousness, but I know this is
> > inadequate
> > > > as much
> > > > > >> >> >> human consciousness in action is not known to the
> > participants
> > > > > >> >> >> rationally.
>
> > > > > >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >>> Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an
> > unconscious
> > > > Nature
> > > > > >> >> >>> which would explain the presence of Laws behind every
> > action
> > > > and
> > > > > >> >> >>> inaction.
>
> > > > > >> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <
> > nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >>> > That doesn't help RP. Why this rather than a host of
> > > > alternatives?
>
> > > > > >> >> >>> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether
> > and
> > > > > >> >> consciousness ,
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious
> > and
> > > > without
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> attributes.
>
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP
> > Singh
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the
> > > > Creation
> > > > > >> >> which
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you
> > > > have
> > > > > >> >> choice , but
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the
> > > > trajectory
> > > > > >> >> of the
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included,
> > is
> > > > bound
> > > > > >> >> by laws and
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of
> > > > God".
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP
> > Singh
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the
> > > > Creation
> > > > > >> >> which
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you
> > > > have
> > > > > >> >> choice , but
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the
> > > > trajectory
> > > > > >> >> of the
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included,
> > is
> > > > bound
> > > > > >> >> by laws and
> > > > > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of
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