Monday, March 19, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: the standard over-optimist?

I'll track down The Wave. I never quite get to despise students James
- I'm sick of seeing them taking on mortgages in order to clutch
increasingly worthless qualifications.

On Mar 17, 1:01 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is true rigs - but the deeper point on this is about how we
> > maintain a more collective form of madness and lack the means to
> > question it without massive resistance.  I forget most of Freud these
> > days James, though I'm looking at Weber again.  I rather like the idea
> > of looking at ourselves as Jared Diamond suggests in terms of
> > societies that went barking into ecocide.
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> The hilarity just struck me when considering the Romans, we don't seem
> to have things figured much better. Where is the waste exchange
> economy? I agree, resource consumption is a good variable to watch-
> but then I have lately been translating everything from garbage to
> crime and poverty with one variable resulting from mismanagement:
> Waste.
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> > I'm not really a tree
> > hugger (though have been known to hug trees), but feel we have to find
> > ways to admit we've got most things upside down.
>
> Several times I've communed with a hand on one, but I've personally
> taken down several more. Kids make some sense when asking "why." If we
> took time to inspect the answers we might find things resemble a
> science, of the dark ages..
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> >  On the personal
> > paranoid side James, I now find myself believing very little outside
> > of science in the guise of public argument and academic trivia.  I've
> > long believed creativity is killed stone dead by 'smiling ignorance'
> > and daft ideas like brainstorming - because the critical edge needs to
> > be sharp and stun the ideological trance.
>
> Very much in agreement, but tact is important to get them decoupling
> their enthusiasm from conditioning without putting them into a
> post-traumatic state. Leave enough slack for the trauma to his them
> around bedtime! :D I say stuff like this to my fiancee about her
> students to lighten things up a little. It would be neat to take
> something like brainstorming and collect a few strategic examples of
> problem solving methods from different fields, there's gotta be
> something out there to ignite a few synapses. If you get flak from the
> supers chide them on the lack of dynamic teachers in the profession
> who can get through to kids and the impacts on society, be sure to
> phrase it in a way that makes the super look good of course. ;-) LOL
>
> Somewhat unrelated, there is a neat German movie (subtitled not
> dubbed) called The Wave you might like, it's one of those simple
> concept movies tying psychology to social movements baring the dark
> and potentially sinister and is between a teacher and his students.
>
> > I find myself a proponent of de-schooling after so much time in
> > education.  Apple is now 'worth more' (in market capitalisation) than
> > the whole of US retail.  I don't like being retailed and would be
> > happy to see the shops go in favour of more direct sales.  What we
> > miss is stuff like this means we are finding new efficiencies, but
> > retain the same old ideas on what jobs  are for.  Fear not, the
> > private sector cavalry will ride in with new products and services -
> > but where are they?  My guess is this is all to do with our easy
> > acceptance of positive gloss and lack of ability to take
> > responsibility for new ways of living.  This is so bad we 'believe'
> > that global competition will do something other than put us all  on
> > Chinese wages and conditions.
>
> I think the plan was for global economy to stabilize around the year
> 2050, but then again I never caught wind of a Plan A before the B. I'm
> confident you would despise me in the classroom due to learning and
> study habits, I once had an Indian algebra teacher chanting the rule
> of not dividing by zero for a solid four minutes, he had the whole
> class join in. :/
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> > On Mar 15, 6:12 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Sociopaths exist in all socio-economic groups.
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> >> On Mar 14, 9:32 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > I particularly like the research on investment CEOs that shows they
> >> > over-rate their abilities and actually produce 'negative alpha' rather
> >> > than competent investment decisions - these being the very people who
> >> > threaten to go away if we restrict their 'earnings'.  The quick
> >> > portrait of Steve Jobs also demonstrates a main theme of the 'rich are
> >> > mean' in his selfish world in which rules do not apply to him.  One
> >> > wonders whether Apple might be an American manufacturer (and so on) if
> >> > we had proper economic rules that stop chancers like him doing their
> >> > immoral stuff?
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> >> > On Mar 14, 2:23 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > >http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=opting-out-of-overop...
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> >> > > This is an interesting little story covering some of the research
> >> > > demonstrating people are over-optimistic and this has dangerous
> >> > > outcomes.  I winder if this is how the peculiar views on economics
> >> > > most hold and the dominance of cheery types in our media?- Hide quoted text -
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