Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Unconscious

Well, the male obviously realized at some point in time that females
were more vulnerable and he took advantage rather than sharing
equally. If you listen or read the news, most is male driven in act/
deed; the chirping of female talk shows does not rate as news or
information. (I think I am under the spell of British history at the
moment- Civil War/Cromwell, etc. and am thouroughly disgusted with the
whole business of (in)humanity so please don't take my comments
personally.)

On Mar 19, 1:56 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For who? For what? In a human resource management context it
> seems intuitively right though.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:34 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The female is only half the equation and gets no extra points for
> > being a vehicle, imo. Motherhood was boosted by pagans and Christians
> > to make up for the patriarchy which designed and ruled the world- and
> > still does in spite of women's lib. Note your use of the male pronoun
> > with your examples, for instance- it's sub.cs and automatic.But I get
> > distracted by stray thoughts- I was wondering the other day if
> > abortion is a form of human sacrifice, for instance.
>
> > On Mar 18, 6:24 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Simply for simplicity reasons, it's a strong image. I might have said:
> > the
> > > author and his book, the founder and his company, the developer and his
> > > creation, the scientist and his findings, etc.
>
> > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Why take the perspective from the mother? I don't believe in
> > > > reincarnation but do find family traits acceptable. One friend joked-
> > > > with love- that my mother's cord was really an anchor chain from a
> > > > battleship.
>
> > > > On Mar 18, 8:17 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Rigs, this interpretation looks too short sighted. Or the other
> > way
> > > > > round - you know what I mean. Anyways, I would postulate that the so
> > > > called
> > > > > afterlife (a too two-dimensional translation by the way) begins as
> > soon
> > > > as
> > > > > the navel cord of whatever you accept to be your baby has been cut.
> > In
> > > > that
> > > > > respect or from that perspective is commonly achievable to be able to
> > > > > oversee and remember even more that one afterlife.
>
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I believe the memories remaining with the living or creations left
> > > > > > behind- even our genetic codes- are our afterlife. The lure of an
> > > > > > afterlife is to give hope to those who found real life pretty
> > > > > > miserable plus provides a rationale for various religious and moral
> > > > > > rules. What was the sale of Indulgences during the Middle Ages
> > except
> > > > > > a form of a protection racket?
>
> > > > > > On Mar 18, 3:58 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Some people believe in an after-life because some people claim to
> > > > > > > remember past births , experience is on their side , they say.
> > You
> > > > > > > might as well believe in ghosts and ghouls because some people
> > claim
> > > > > > > to have experienced them. So much for experience !
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > How do you know that, RP, when your dead ? Have you ever died
> > > > before ?
>
> > > > > > > > We all have a body and a mind. Based on its capabilities, or
> > > > > > > > incapabilities, what are we talking about ? Nature ? We hardly
> > know
> > > > > > > > what, how much, how far, in what ways... it works, in all the
> > 10 to
> > > > > > > > power 22 star worlds. What we know of it can hardly determine
> > what
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > do know about it, quite as the past can hardly define the
> > future !
>
> > > > > > > > Likewise, God. WTF are we talking about ? Now this could seem
> > rude
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > should make perfect sense in the context. As in what is this
> > God ?
> > > > > > > > What constitutes it ? How does it relate to that other fog
> > word "
> > > > > > > > Nature " ?
>
> > > > > > > > I sincerely believe such threads are started on account of
> > > > something
> > > > > > > > diseased within us !
>
> > > > > > > > Healthy people should be talking of matters they know or have
> > > > > > > > experienced. One can then opine, extrapolate, theorise... and
> > > > still be
> > > > > > > > understandable.
>
> > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 11:26 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Good
> > > > > > > >> Allan
> > > > > > > >> On Mar 17, 2012 5:28 PM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> > As long as I am alive I am conscious of the world and
> > myself ,
> > > > but
> > > > > > when I
> > > > > > > >> > am dead I reach a state of permanent unconsciousness , a
> > state
> > > > of
> > > > > > supreme
> > > > > > > >> > peace where nothing disturbs me , a sort of nirvana. that
> > is the
> > > > > > ultimate
> > > > > > > >> > state from which nobody returns.
>
> > > > > > > >> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 3:32:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ash wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> >> This does make some sense to me RP so I hope my question
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > > sound
> > > > > > > >> >> critical. For me thinking in this way causes a massive
> > amount
> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> >> difficulty, as it sounds like immutable truths, so I have
> > to
> > > > > > translate
> > > > > > > >> >> away the language to get glints of my own thinking
> > through. We
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> >> easily call my predicament not seeing the forest for the
> > > > trees, and
> > > > > > > >> >> that would be a fitting if not limited statement. In my
> > mind I
> > > > > > prefer
> > > > > > > >> >> to start with the will representing laws of nature which
> > are
> > > > > > dynamic,
> > > > > > > >> >> and work more along an opportunistic heuristic. For me it
> > is
> > > > > > obvious
> > > > > > > >> >> that some people talk about an n-dimensional entity, but n
> > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > >> >> aspect of scope in one's perspective. If n is potentially
> > > > infinite,
> > > > > > > >> >> then the truths may have strength but are more
> > optimizations
> > > > than
> > > > > > > >> >> static ontology. I am wondering if there is some useful
> > > > perspective
> > > > > > > >> >> that can be used in my situation, or perhaps it is a
> > hopeless
> > > > case.
> > > > > > > >> >> Perhaps you have something to help me?
>
> > > > > > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:21 AM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > Neil , there is no difference. The universe is not nature
> > > > but a
> > > > > > > >> >> > manifestation of Nature or God. It is unconscious but not
> > > > dead,
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > >> >> > that would have meant no life , further it has to be
> > > > unconscious
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > >> >> > the conscious is always bound to certain limits and is
> > dual.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM, archytas <
> > nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> >> That's a little bit different - and I'm in agreement.
> >  Some
> > > > > > scientists
> > > > > > > >> >> >> have suggested we could make a universe with life
> > > > conditions in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> >> >> laboratory - still leaving us with issues about
> > beginnings.
> > > > > >  Science
> > > > > > > >> >> >> fiction wise one can imagine making such universes in
> > order
> > > > to
> > > > > > travel
> > > > > > > >> >> >> in time in them to discover more on how we were made -
> > by
> > > > > > occupying
> > > > > > > >> >> >> earlier stages of them.  I tend to think of the
> > unconscious
> > > > as
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > >> >> >> isn't in rational consciousness, but I know this is
> > > > inadequate
> > > > > > as much
> > > > > > > >> >> >> human consciousness in action is not known to the
> > > > participants
> > > > > > > >> >> >> rationally.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an
> > > > unconscious
> > > > > > Nature
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> which would explain the presence of Laws behind every
> > > > action
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> inaction.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <
> > > > nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> > That doesn't help RP.  Why this rather than a host of
> > > > > > alternatives?
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water ,
> > ether
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >> >> consciousness ,
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is
> > unconscious
> > > > and
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> attributes.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP
> > > > Singh
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and
> > the
> > > > > > Creation
> > > > > > > >> >> which
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think
> > that you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >> >> choice , but
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as
> > the
> > > > > > trajectory
> > > > > > > >> >> of the
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you
> > included,
> > > > is
> > > > > > bound
> > > > > > > >> >> by laws and
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The
> > Will of
> > > > > > God".
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP
> > > > Singh
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and
> > the
> > > > > > Creation
> > > > > > > >> >> which
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think
> > that you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >> >> choice , but
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as
> > the
> > > > > > trajectory
> > > > > > > >> >> of the
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you
> > included,
> > > > is
> > > > > > bound
> > > > > > > >> >> by laws and
> > > > > > > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The
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