diploma, worked, went to night school and became the "greatest"
generation. College/university has deteriorated in some cases- maybe
most cases- as a very expensive interlude. Several profs have
mentioned they prefer returning adults versus the 18-25 year olds.
Many families need a "break" from their teens and college provides
that- or there's the military. A two year national service stint might
help maturity along but culture/advertising has created a youth
tyranny=future voters and consumers.
On Mar 19, 6:33 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Turns out I've seen most of it - BBC2 did a dubbed version - I
> remember the bit at the beginning where the teachers get the classes
> neither is suited to. In the rest of the film I can't get over how
> impossible the setting is in English terms as our undergrads are
> nowhere near as sophisticated as these 'schoolies' (neither am I).
> The best strategy on creativity I ever found was to let people do
> their own thing and find ways to mark that with them. Film was often
> the chosen medium. I'm both overbearingly serious and very shy, so my
> icebreaker usually involved taking the rise out of this as a self-
> aware dork.
>
> On Mar 19, 10:44 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'll track down The Wave. I never quite get to despise students James
> > - I'm sick of seeing them taking on mortgages in order to clutch
> > increasingly worthless qualifications.
>
> > On Mar 17, 1:01 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > This is true rigs - but the deeper point on this is about how we
> > > > maintain a more collective form of madness and lack the means to
> > > > question it without massive resistance. I forget most of Freud these
> > > > days James, though I'm looking at Weber again. I rather like the idea
> > > > of looking at ourselves as Jared Diamond suggests in terms of
> > > > societies that went barking into ecocide.
>
> > > The hilarity just struck me when considering the Romans, we don't seem
> > > to have things figured much better. Where is the waste exchange
> > > economy? I agree, resource consumption is a good variable to watch-
> > > but then I have lately been translating everything from garbage to
> > > crime and poverty with one variable resulting from mismanagement:
> > > Waste.
>
> > > > I'm not really a tree
> > > > hugger (though have been known to hug trees), but feel we have to find
> > > > ways to admit we've got most things upside down.
>
> > > Several times I've communed with a hand on one, but I've personally
> > > taken down several more. Kids make some sense when asking "why." If we
> > > took time to inspect the answers we might find things resemble a
> > > science, of the dark ages..
>
> > > > On the personal
> > > > paranoid side James, I now find myself believing very little outside
> > > > of science in the guise of public argument and academic trivia. I've
> > > > long believed creativity is killed stone dead by 'smiling ignorance'
> > > > and daft ideas like brainstorming - because the critical edge needs to
> > > > be sharp and stun the ideological trance.
>
> > > Very much in agreement, but tact is important to get them decoupling
> > > their enthusiasm from conditioning without putting them into a
> > > post-traumatic state. Leave enough slack for the trauma to his them
> > > around bedtime! :D I say stuff like this to my fiancee about her
> > > students to lighten things up a little. It would be neat to take
> > > something like brainstorming and collect a few strategic examples of
> > > problem solving methods from different fields, there's gotta be
> > > something out there to ignite a few synapses. If you get flak from the
> > > supers chide them on the lack of dynamic teachers in the profession
> > > who can get through to kids and the impacts on society, be sure to
> > > phrase it in a way that makes the super look good of course. ;-) LOL
>
> > > Somewhat unrelated, there is a neat German movie (subtitled not
> > > dubbed) called The Wave you might like, it's one of those simple
> > > concept movies tying psychology to social movements baring the dark
> > > and potentially sinister and is between a teacher and his students.
>
> > > > I find myself a proponent of de-schooling after so much time in
> > > > education. Apple is now 'worth more' (in market capitalisation) than
> > > > the whole of US retail. I don't like being retailed and would be
> > > > happy to see the shops go in favour of more direct sales. What we
> > > > miss is stuff like this means we are finding new efficiencies, but
> > > > retain the same old ideas on what jobs are for. Fear not, the
> > > > private sector cavalry will ride in with new products and services -
> > > > but where are they? My guess is this is all to do with our easy
> > > > acceptance of positive gloss and lack of ability to take
> > > > responsibility for new ways of living. This is so bad we 'believe'
> > > > that global competition will do something other than put us all on
> > > > Chinese wages and conditions.
>
> > > I think the plan was for global economy to stabilize around the year
> > > 2050, but then again I never caught wind of a Plan A before the B. I'm
> > > confident you would despise me in the classroom due to learning and
> > > study habits, I once had an Indian algebra teacher chanting the rule
> > > of not dividing by zero for a solid four minutes, he had the whole
> > > class join in. :/
>
> > > > On Mar 15, 6:12 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> Sociopaths exist in all socio-economic groups.
>
> > > >> On Mar 14, 9:32 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > I particularly like the research on investment CEOs that shows they
> > > >> > over-rate their abilities and actually produce 'negative alpha' rather
> > > >> > than competent investment decisions - these being the very people who
> > > >> > threaten to go away if we restrict their 'earnings'. The quick
> > > >> > portrait of Steve Jobs also demonstrates a main theme of the 'rich are
> > > >> > mean' in his selfish world in which rules do not apply to him. One
> > > >> > wonders whether Apple might be an American manufacturer (and so on) if
> > > >> > we had proper economic rules that stop chancers like him doing their
> > > >> > immoral stuff?
>
> > > >> > On Mar 14, 2:23 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > >http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=opting-out-of-overop...
>
> > > >> > > This is an interesting little story covering some of the research
> > > >> > > demonstrating people are over-optimistic and this has dangerous
> > > >> > > outcomes. I winder if this is how the peculiar views on economics
> > > >> > > most hold and the dominance of cheery types in our media?- Hide quoted text -
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