> The cost of butter is rising! $20. a pound in Norway- they are giving
> it as Christmas presents!!! (I pay $2. at Aldi).
A good opportunity for small family business to buy a milk cow or
goats I think. Maybe a community could get together to obtain one, and
bam local economy with people cooperating toward a common good. :)
> Contentment is a blessing though I shouldn't take it back to Eden,
> James. I bounced between my mother's extravagance and boarding school
> and the latter had a lasting effect- though I wouldn't have made a
> good nun. :-)
Sounds to me you knew a little more than the nuns, but really are they
restricted from any type of orgasm? Jesus help them!
>
> Take this week's assignment- for my youngest son who loves a
> vegetarian: make something edible from a block of tofu and send him
> some recipes. I failed- from broiled to Chinese to Mexican and the
> result went into the food processor to use with tostadas or burritos
> as I hate to throw out or waste food but the whole endeavor was a
> penance. On the other hand, I happened on two small lamb shanks which
> I roasted with vegetables and felt sinful. :-)
Heh, sin isn't a part of my vocab except maybe jokingly. I've tried
Boca burgers, subpar/freezerburnt flavor and requires lots of
seasoning. One day we will see people vying for plant life rights too,
though I don't find our modern industrial meat farms appetizing or
honoring - they will subsist on lifeless synthetic vitamins and I will
still have my sinfully omnivorous diet.
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2:46 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Like Monkebus I think greed as we define it is mainly due to language,
>> and like Vam think there are genetic motives for the behavior
>> (physiological/psychological). Like other animals we seek to secure
>> our survival by responding to our perceived environment, not
>> necessarily to the world at hand but the psychological response to
>> environmental pressures.
>>
>> I've been watching the squirrels gathering various resources to fare
>> our Michigan winter and pondering what it is like to feel the
>> instinctual motive to respond to the change of seasons, for them I
>> mean (qualia). Perhaps it starts with an urge, a compulsive behavior
>> programmed into them that rewards them with peace or happiness to
>> accomplish their preparations like collecting a store of fruits and
>> nuts and to build their nest of leaves, grass and sticks in a tree.
>> Perhaps it is more to assuage the anxiety of dissonance, perhaps they
>> mostly exist in a panicky state as we would call it. A person who
>> behaved as erratically as a squirrel would be institutionalized, the
>> squirrel is in it's element near the woods, what natural ends I wonder
>> that we might be seeking in our behaviors. I haven't read Kostler's
>> Ghost in the Machine yet but I think this is what he referred to,
>> these fundamental human imperatives that arise and remind us that you
>> can take the ape out of the jungle but not visa-versa. It is obvious
>> that the squirrel is doing what it needs to do to survive, and if it
>> collects two times the needed nuts to do so it greatly improves it's
>> survival short or overworking itself thus burning more energy and
>> shortening it's life or to other chain effects.
>>
>> Our insecurities can be manipulated, or our needs left ignored our
>> capacities allow our sense of want, insecurity, and anxieties to
>> create unending feelings of desire. We can breed all year, we can
>> think very very far ahead. It brings into question what environment
>> would be most beneficial for us- nature is reckless but effective. If
>> greed is a problem I think it isn't due to flawed human beings as much
>> as the failure to take what we know of the world and ourselves and
>> apply it our societies in a sensible manner. The cost of convenience
>> is rising, we've been riding high on the waste hog for a very long
>> time. It will probably get a bit worse, people are willing to cling to
>> false security, we've invested too much in this hand to fold, we are
>> narcissistic, arrogant and full of pride. The only thing left to do it
>> actually find some solutions.
>>
>> A return to Eden, the noble savage and such isn't where I'm headed
>> with this, that sounds a bit too nostalgic and I don't think would fit
>> the long term cultural/technological/evolutionary requirements for
>> survival. Sorry this turned out a little longwinded PSK, but I enjoy
>> the exercise. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey everyone... i have been very dull of late with little mind
>> > activity... but.. today i was just going through Hind Swaraj.... and
>> > well its not about the book.. in the review pages.. i read something
>> > about Greed.. and it got me thinking.... only humans have greed
>> > right... i find it very peculiar.. the most common vice one is taught
>> > against from childhood...What is the nature of it... is there or can
>> > there be a why?... when does wanting enough turn to greed.... the
>> > dictionary defines it as wanting more than is necessary.... well..
>> > that appplies to everything then!.. we always have and want more than
>> > necessary or required... is being careful and cautious greedy(in
>> > wanting enough and more)... is being ambitious greedy.... why is being
>> > greedy wrong? ....very simplistic questions.. but i want to know what
>> > everyone thinks about this....- Hide quoted text -
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