this mess. Clean it up.
On Dec 9, 10:15 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Most of us don't find killing easy pol - 98% of us take a lot of
> rather nasty training even to do it in war. I went through this.
> lots written on the subject, not least on Vietnam veterans - it seems
> the ones most traumatised are the ones who found they couldn't hack
> the 'killing edge'. The bulldung of (over here) "Queen and country"
> is totally out of anything I could believe in, but it's delivered in
> highly brainwash situations. The disgusting purges by my countrymen
> in Vam's country - often whole families were hung etc. as 'an example'
> - show just what rotten behaviour is encouraged in patriotism.
> The psycho finds it easier to kill because they experience little or
> no shame or remorse and almost no ability to see consequences except
> in rare cases. Very few of this type are much good at killing without
> serious help from the weapon, which is why they tend to kill where
> guns are available.
> Foucault said we shouldn't listen to the experts and hear what the
> killers say directly - but he was a prat. I don't want to hear the
> sociopath's explanation and would rather put a bullet in hesheorit's
> brain. Killing is easy enough - the problem is we are asked to do much
> worse and are killing every day through immiseration and in wars we
> allow because we are too timid to protest and take the streets. In
> this sense, most of even this group are "killers".
>
> On Dec 9, 3:41 pm, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I am not sure if i have posted something of this kind before.. cos i
> > have a feeling i did.. I was reading about the second shooting at the
> > Virginia Tech campus.. Although its not a mass shooting.. Did appear
> > pretty random.. But the point is not this particular shooting.. Its
> > this whole 'Phenomena'.. if i may use the word for the lack of a
> > better one.. Some crazy dude filling up on Ammo and killing .. just
> > killing randomly.... I have always been intrigued by such cases.. now
> > this guy is not a serial killer... He just pops, one day... The thing
> > is... It could be anyone... anyone at all... i often try to apply the
> > situation to me... And i have rather pessimistic views about it... It
> > Cant be curbed or checked.. can it... Who will you counsel..
> > Regulating arms is just one measure and i dont really support it...
> > Its this apparent randomness to the whole thing..its not always
> > depressive people who do it.. That Andrew Breivik.. i dont find him
> > the stereotypical (the ones with whom these shootings are associated )
> > gloomy, loner kind. Whatever the driving force maybe .. whatever the
> > motive.. or the lack of one... Suppose i feel so disconnected from the
> > world, from my actions ... and suppose i have a gun... and i go to any
> > crowded place and Bang Bang.. thats it.. i might kill myself after
> > that.. But the thing is.. what was to stop me... who couldve
> > known..and How could you stop me.. But I suppose when i reason.. deep
> > rooted morality perhaps... and then i come to the question of
> > conscience(is conscience natural?).. Does conscience ever leave us?..
> > are we not all the time aware of our actions.. and if they are of such
> > seriousness.. i dont really get when people say i Shot the person in
> > the heat of anger.. i was not thinking... is that possible? ... Well..
> > along the same lines. if perhaps we consider soldiers... on the
> > warfront.. why would they kill?.. to save themselves from the
> > bullet... To avenge their buddies shot.. but really... would one kill
> > for country?... or perhaps some do.... We can stretch this to
> > terrorism but thats another episode all together.. i realise i have
> > sort of ranted here.. but tell me what you think about it.. would you
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