Thursday, July 14, 2011

[Mind's Eye] Re: Enlightenment

I do not follow you Lee. The same (that you say of the brain) could
be said of the heart, circulatory system, respiratory system, liver,
kidneys etc. If they are not working, the life of the body ends,
unless extended mechanically. We don't know if it continues in
another form - or I could say, our knowing is not contained in the
mind.

While the brain is not the same as the mind, there is an awareness
beyond mind. If you have not experienced it, you may think me out of
my mind. If you have never had a completely quiet mind, you may not
have had the opportunity to go beyond it. (and I mean you in the
general sense of everyone, not you in particular, Lee) My mind is
located in me, with my thoughts, feelings and sensations - and is non
local, and that is the infinite aspect.

On Jul 13, 9:01 am, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Molly says:
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> 'it is the mind that is aware - if you are witnessing, or "aware" of
> the contents of you mind, what part of you is that?  There is more
> than the mind in each and every one of us'
>
> That is also the mind Molly.  The seat of self is in the brain, no
> working brain no self.  When you look in the mirror you see your own
> reflection so it is of course possible to use your eyes to study your
> own eyes, why not then use the mind to study the mind?  I see no
> problems with this at all, indeed what other organ would you use to
> study the mind, or for that matter the study of anything?
>
> On Jul 13, 6:20 am, "Tony Orlow" <t...@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
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> > Dear RP -
>
> > Do you disagree with partaking of the herb which led us to the discovery
> > of 0, and of oo, and of god and science? With the seeds being perfect
> > food, and the resins being the lost vitamin, being so under fire this
> > last century of war, and being the greatest source of fiber for all
> > uses, and being one of the strongest and most beautiful of plants, can
> > it be bad? If I have partaken as long as I can remember, and merit this
> > personal response from RP Singh, can it have done me too much harm? I do
> > now the job of a 20-something, at almost 50, and do it like five of
> > them. I can't be doing anything too...oo wrong, right? That is how I
> > figure it.
>
> > Much Peace,
>
> > Tony
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: minds-eye@googlegroups.com [mailto:minds-eye@googlegroups.com] On
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> > Behalf Of RP Singh
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:12 PM
> > To: "Minds Eye"
> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Enlightenment
>
> > The state of enlightenment , or self-realization , is simply a state
> > of awareness like the dream -state or deep-sleep , and can be attained
> > through concentration or substance - use. It is the mind which is
> > aware and as the mind is finite , whatever it is aware of is also
> > finite. The very fact that the so-called transcendental state can be
> > experienced through use of entheogens casts a doubt about its
> > spiritual nature. A person experiences such a state and when he comes
> > out of it is just his ordinary self. God-state cannot be experienced
> > by any being as it is beyond experience and can only be understood. We
> > find it difficult to accept that we are mortal and hence believe in
> > re-incarnation etc.  The fact is that the " I " has nowhere to go on
> > the death of the organism , it is simply an attribute of life and is
> > no more on the death of the body , and  is thus just an " illusion " .
> > This is , of course , my reading of the matter and can be erroneous as
> > my reason is not infallible and is subject to my limitations.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -

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