Yes indeed there are many parts of the human dedicated to keeping it
alive.
The mind is a function of the brain though isn't it, rather like
running is a function of the legs and the heart and the lungs?
So without the legs, heart and lungs, there will be no running. Like
without the brain there would be no mind.
It is not hard to see that we use our intelect to study; intelect a
funtion of the mind, which in turn is a function of the brain, so as I
say I see no problems in seeing that the mind is used to study the
mind, yes even our own minds.
I don't agree that there exists an awareness beyond mind, I have
throughout my short span of life experianced all sorts of weird and
wonderfull things, yet still I say that all awareness takes place in
the mind. When I have had periods of expansion of the mind, it is
still all taking place in my brain.
Think of it this way,I am dyslexic and this is because something about
my brain causes certain senseory inputs to be inturpreted in a way
that differs from the non dyslexic. This is most evidant in my
spelling and if you read through enough of my posts you'll notice
things like the way I often write 'Form' instead of 'From'
Would you suggest that my dyslexcia stems form a place independant of
my brain?
Nope I don't think it would be correct to suggest such a thing. Yet
dyslexcia is a huge part of who I am, it has shapped my mind since my
birth, it forces me to approach things in ways that the non dyslexic
would not consider, I need to think about things in certian ways to
ensure that my dyslexcia does not hinder my day to day life.
What I'm saying here is that my dsylexic experiances which we could
say take place in my mind, are a function of my brain. If these
experiances take place in my brain, so have all of my experiances,
includeing all of the trances, and dream states, all of the
meditations, all of the high magiks and ceremonies, all of this has
taken place in my brain, the home of my mind. I have not encountered
one iota of evidance nor experiance to suggest other wise.
Perhaps though the most telling is in the use of LSD, or any other
pschyotropic substance. When 'tripping' all sorts of things can
happen, you can just enjoy the buzz for what it is, you can use it to
'open the doors of perception', but all who have partaken more than a
few times know that to stave off a 'bad trip' it is useful to remind
yourself that it is just the drug, and when the chemical reactions of
the drug in your brain whare off, then all goes back to normal.
It is possible to use LSD to expand the mind? Yes of course it is,
and chemicaly speaking the same result from a differant
meathod(meditiaon for example) cause the same chemical changes in the
brain.
Almost finished now honset, so to reiterate in the shortest possibel
way.
The mind is seated in the brain, there is no other place that the mind
exists.
On Jul 14, 11:20 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do not follow you Lee. The same (that you say of the brain) could
> be said of the heart, circulatory system, respiratory system, liver,
> kidneys etc. If they are not working, the life of the body ends,
> unless extended mechanically. We don't know if it continues in
> another form - or I could say, our knowing is not contained in the
> mind.
>
> While the brain is not the same as the mind, there is an awareness
> beyond mind. If you have not experienced it, you may think me out of
> my mind. If you have never had a completely quiet mind, you may not
> have had the opportunity to go beyond it. (and I mean you in the
> general sense of everyone, not you in particular, Lee) My mind is
> located in me, with my thoughts, feelings and sensations - and is non
> local, and that is the infinite aspect.
>
> On Jul 13, 9:01 am, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Molly says:
>
> > 'it is the mind that is aware - if you are witnessing, or "aware" of
> > the contents of you mind, what part of you is that? There is more
> > than the mind in each and every one of us'
>
> > That is also the mind Molly. The seat of self is in the brain, no
> > working brain no self. When you look in the mirror you see your own
> > reflection so it is of course possible to use your eyes to study your
> > own eyes, why not then use the mind to study the mind? I see no
> > problems with this at all, indeed what other organ would you use to
> > study the mind, or for that matter the study of anything?
>
> > On Jul 13, 6:20 am, "Tony Orlow" <t...@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear RP -
>
> > > Do you disagree with partaking of the herb which led us to the discovery
> > > of 0, and of oo, and of god and science? With the seeds being perfect
> > > food, and the resins being the lost vitamin, being so under fire this
> > > last century of war, and being the greatest source of fiber for all
> > > uses, and being one of the strongest and most beautiful of plants, can
> > > it be bad? If I have partaken as long as I can remember, and merit this
> > > personal response from RP Singh, can it have done me too much harm? I do
> > > now the job of a 20-something, at almost 50, and do it like five of
> > > them. I can't be doing anything too...oo wrong, right? That is how I
> > > figure it.
>
> > > Much Peace,
>
> > > Tony
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: minds-eye@googlegroups.com [mailto:minds-eye@googlegroups.com] On
>
> > > Behalf Of RP Singh
> > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:12 PM
> > > To: "Minds Eye"
> > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Enlightenment
>
> > > The state of enlightenment , or self-realization , is simply a state
> > > of awareness like the dream -state or deep-sleep , and can be attained
> > > through concentration or substance - use. It is the mind which is
> > > aware and as the mind is finite , whatever it is aware of is also
> > > finite. The very fact that the so-called transcendental state can be
> > > experienced through use of entheogens casts a doubt about its
> > > spiritual nature. A person experiences such a state and when he comes
> > > out of it is just his ordinary self. God-state cannot be experienced
> > > by any being as it is beyond experience and can only be understood. We
> > > find it difficult to accept that we are mortal and hence believe in
> > > re-incarnation etc. The fact is that the " I " has nowhere to go on
> > > the death of the organism , it is simply an attribute of life and is
> > > no more on the death of the body , and is thus just an " illusion " .
> > > This is , of course , my reading of the matter and can be erroneous as
> > > my reason is not infallible and is subject to my limitations.- Hide quoted text -
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