[Mind's Eye] Re: Should Atheism be promoted

hows that lee ? define rubbish gov. - if theres a snake in the
grass , do you set the grass on fire , or do you refrain in fear of
being burnt , or worse burning someone else , but if u dont set the
fire and someone gets bit ; ?

leerevdouglas@googlemail.com wrote:
> Militant action is valid in many circumstanes, the least of which
> would be the overthrowing of a rubbish goverment or other regeime.
>
> On Apr 8, 5:37 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes. Militant anything is frightful isn't it?
> >
> > So now we get to the question of when is militant action valid?
> >
> > I hope you have time to get hold of a copy of Grayling's book.
> >
> > I would like to hear more on the subject.
> >
> > Malc
> >
> > On Apr 7, 11:19 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > First, thank you Malcolm for referencing this book! I hadn't heard
> > > about it yet.
> >
> > > As to your question(s)…Grayling and numerous others…for a long time
> > > now have had 'an argument for the active promotion of atheism'. So,
> > > since this is nothing new…I'm not sure that it should be taken as
> > > such. And, following your wording, even allowing a quick fantasy of
> > > militant evangelical atheist is fraught with the same horror of
> > > militant evangelical theists!
> >
> > > In any sense…to give any debate about such activities, specifics will
> > > have to be presented and I just have not read the book…although I have
> > > heard him and his ilk talk. Here is one recent interview:
> >
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNCc336QgUQ
> >
> > > His deification of rationalism seems to be at the center of his thesis…
> > > and for the purpose of our debate here and now, I'll say that such a
> > > stance is but an act of polarization and dialectics with a result of a
> > > stance that is not integrated.
> >
> > > There is nothing 'wrong' with ideation as there is nothing 'wrong'
> > > with knowledge when the subjectivity of words and concepts is not
> > > addressed.
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 3:18 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:> I do not believe that a supreme being created the universe etc.
> >
> > > > Until today, I have accepted the existence of religions on the
> > > > grounds
> > > > that they give hope and faith to many in the face of adversity and
> > > > promote certain moral values.
> >
> > > > This week A C Grayling brought out his book "The Good Book - A
> > > > secular
> > > > bible". In interview he stated that theism is harmful to individuals
> > > > and society. Although his thoughts on this were nor expanded.
> >
> > > > I live in Fiji and cannot get a copy of his book but I would like to
> > > > hear his argument on this matter. Ie Why he thinks that theism is
> > > > harmful.
> >
> > > > I have found nothing of depth on the web.
> >
> > > > If he is indeed correct then there is an argument for the active
> > > > promotion of atheism. Perhaps we can become missionaries in the human
> > > > cause.
> >
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