always I have one eye on Waterstones, let me know when the book is
out.
On Apr 7, 12:57 pm, Pat <PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 12:23 pm, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
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> > I have seen this kind or rhetoric before and although I must agree
> > there is some validity in this argument, the same can be said of of
> > any human endevour that is divisive.
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> > An example.
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> > I am not a patriot, I see no sense in feeling pride in the accident of
> > the location of ones birth, of course if a patriotic person was also
> > to feel the shame for the shamefull acts that their country has also
> > done, then that at least is consistant.
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> > Religion has brought gretness and great shame to it's adherance, so
> > has patriotiism, football fandom, we have witnessed both the joy that
> > music brings and the violence done in i's name by fans of differant
> > genres.
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> > Should we promot atheism? Yes why not, let people have a free,
> > informed choice, over all aspects of their lives, Should we give give
> > atheist fundementalist any stage time? yes of course all the while we
> > do the same for religious fundementalists or political fundementalist
> > it would be unfair not to. Shold we really listen to any who espouse
> > a fundie POV, well that is up to each of us on an individual basis but
> > me, naaaa, why would I?
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> Yeah, the real problem is 'fundamentalism' irrespective of the faith--
> whether in God or opposed to. Personally, I'd love to take on Dawkins
> in a debate. There are a few areas where he's so off-base logically
> it's almost funny.
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> BTW, I've finally figured out a way to PROVE that the speed of light
> cxannot be a constant. I'll save the 'guts' of my argument for the
> book (which, BTW, is at around 40,000 words, now and might be finished
> by June!!!) but think about this: if space expands and the distance
> between A and B gets larger, how can C be a constant? If it appears
> to be a constant, then it MUST accelerate in order to make up the
> difference in the extra distance created by the expansion of space due
> to Hiubble's Law!!
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> > In the interest of openess I must declare to being a theist myself.
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> > On Apr 7, 12:09 pm, Pat <PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 7, 11:18 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I do not believe that a supreme being created the universe etc.
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> > > > Until today, I have accepted the existence of religions on the
> > > > grounds
> > > > that they give hope and faith to many in the face of adversity and
> > > > promote certain moral values.
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> > > > This week A C Grayling brought out his book "The Good Book - A
> > > > secular
> > > > bible". In interview he stated that theism is harmful to individuals
> > > > and society. Although his thoughts on this were nor expanded.
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> > > > I live in Fiji and cannot get a copy of his book but I would like to
> > > > hear his argument on this matter. Ie Why he thinks that theism is
> > > > harmful.
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> > > > I have found nothing of depth on the web.
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> > > > If he is indeed correct then there is an argument for the active
> > > > promotion of atheism. Perhaps we can become missionaries in the human
> > > > cause.
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> > > > What say you?
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> > > Atheism comes in more than one variety. Which sect would you want
> > > promoted? The kind where the individual has 'no belief about God' or
> > > the kind where the individual accepts a religious definition of God
> > > and actively disbelieves it? There are atheistic evangelists like
> > > Richard Dawkins already. But his arguments have huge holes in them.
> > > The key point to note is that there is no 'conclusive' proof 'for or
> > > against' the existence of God, so, any belief based on a profound lack
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