Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

Neil, 'many likes' and 'much love' ... for bringing this crux to focus.

Fran, you hit it on the head about our times.

Maybe, Don will take it forward with his passionate disputation.

The puppeteers have "unlocked" the value, they say. 

Means, people have been effectively harnessed into the system which reaps the 'value' they create in a high-GINI hierarchical structure, in which too they are made to pay for their needs at costs that leave them poor. Except for the smart few who agree to actions they might be indicted by law for or stoned to gore by the people !

The whole of education serves to provide an inexhaustible stream of such 'whizkids.' The entire environment is made subtly captive with massive obfuscation of meaning, PR, propaganda, paid media and editorials, legislatures and senates, and 'iconic' bizwigs.

And people... remember, most of them are too taken up with survival and 'upward mobility' !

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:03:18 PM UTC+5:30, frantheman wrote:

It's a rigged game, Neil, with rigged rules, from beginning to end. One of the excellent points made by Graeber is how little of that which is really important to us in life lets itself be quantified in monetary/economic terms; things like love, honesty, beauty, trust. Trust ... ? The strange thing is that any monetary system is based on trust - yet what exemplifies the current financial roulette systems which dominate the global and national "markets" is a complete lack of trust. He who trusts will be conned.

The system is rotten, played to the advantage of the 1% (or the 0.001% globally). Unfortunately we are all caught up in it, are dependent on it, suffer from it (or even - in the case of those of us living in the rich countries - occasionally profit from it). There are plenty of models for ways of doing things differently. What I can't see - without systemic breakdown and the immeasurable suffering and death of tens, even hundreds of millions - is how to move from where we are now to where we could be. In my more pessimistic moments, I fear that this systemic collapse is probably inevitably imminent anyhow.  

On 1 September 2012 14:35, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com> wrote:

A common phrase in my childhood when we couldn't understand something
was 'it's all Greek to me'.  Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy are all
Euro periphery nations now on the brink of collapse.  I've been trying
to explain what's going on in a series of lectures recently.  I start
from the premise that economics is all Greek to me.  This is some
combination of me not understanding the muck and my belief that what
it's all about is a politburo imposing the Greek fate on us all.
Michael Hudson has written extensively on this.

Most of us can't debate economics because we can't get our attitudes
out of the Idols that generate our 'understanding'. I usually start
with a few questions about debt and what money is.  It's rare anyone
has much sensible to say on either, let alone knowledge of the history
on might find in, say, David Graeber's 'Debt: the first 5000 years' or
Paul Ormerod's 'Dr Strangelove's Game'.  I veer off a little and
explain that when I started university teaching, you could base a
course on text like this aiming at truth than than quantitative
manipulation.  These days, education has shifted towards producing
technocrats with instantly transferable job skills.  Teaching doesn't
get much further than compiling and manipulating spreadsheets.

Ask yourself who owns the debt, what is its size in comparison with
the productive economy.  The answers are startling, but less so than
the general ignorance in which we have been educated not to know.  I
test the latter with a bit of computerised button-pushing before I
start.

The debt is several times the productive economy - or rather the
consuming economy.  It's owned, in the main, by a small number of
people through stock markets and bonds (bonds are much bigger than
shares these days).  As few as 92,000 people own most of it around the
world.  These are the politburo or alien lizards who run the show.

I venture off into some Thorstein Veblen and a book on Germany and the
world wars by an Italian - 'Conjuring Hitler'.  This is really to show
that current economics isn't new at all.  I run through some economic
modelling and then ask what results we'd get if we designed our
spreadsheets from history rather than theory, including a turn on
delta, gamma and Poisson leap hedging.

My last question is 'where did the money go'?  You see, all the
spreadsheets work, but they don't show what money is or where it ends
up.  Something called the Cantillon effect helps here.  Money is
effectively 'radioactive'  and the plan worldwide Greek.  We cut
schools, police and welfare services and the money goes to a rich
oligarchy who fund our politics, destroying the hope of democracy.
Viewed as a physical system, economics is a control system that uses
more resources in control than in production.  We don't go for this in
science, except in highly complex experiments as at CERN and
Fermilab.  The essence of economics is a plot by a government of he
rich to own everything and rent it back to us.  This is the essential
Greek model.

It's easy enough to get to this stage.  The arguments can be made very
accurately.  This is only stage one.  Underlying the argument are the
Idols - complex soaked-up collective ignorance that actually prevent
economics as a science and our recognition that finance is a
complicated, religious control fraud (Veblen comes free on the Net).

Lecture two starts with the question 'what is our evidence that
private sector disciplines work better than the public sector and if
so, why is the private sector so interested in running the public
sector rather than producing radical, innovative, better
alternatives'?  This is something of a Wittgensteinian turn as I think
organisation itself is misunderstood in private versus public sector
debate.  Underlying this is the ideology of meritocracy and its
contradictions that money buys unfair advantage and wealth results in
rents the rest of us pay.

Is your country turning Greek?

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