Re: Mind's Eye Copy write

Apple is 'worth more' than all US retail on market capitalisation.
The company works through tax dodging and race to the bottom working
conditions. I doubt they innovate. The copyright and patent claims
are a sham. I agree with Al. When products reach the bauble stage
like i-phone and design is largely cosmetic we should let in the cheap
clones. I have a laptop these days because I can get 6 hours out of
mine on battery and play the odd game when I'm bored. My PC is
obsolete. If there was a phone in my laptop my mobile would be too.
Lying behind this courtroom nonsense is the ludicrous 'growth
economy'.
The difficult questions concern how we promote innovation. My guess
has long been we don't understand what technology is. The technology
we've been neglecting is decent society - subsuming this to
pathological commerce. I have a cheap Chinese "i-phone" which works
as well as the real one bought for grandson and his fascination with
chic. Dinner with rigsy (or anyone else in here) would be more
entertaining than anything 'apps' provide - which isn't a back-handed
compliment - even if I'm sure everyone can see how it could be. I-
phones are toys and frankly pretty boring ones.

The innovation in my laptop is that I can carry it about, type
reliably on it if I disable the mouse pad and don't need a power
source. I had a pc back in 1982 and really (it was an Ericsson with
128K ram and largely floppy driven). My new machine and software is
an improvement, but as I get round to the first print draft of my
book, I have to say not that much has changed in that process since my
productions in the 80s and the only innovation in word-processing is
the spell-check (perhaps the ability to write equations too). Most of
the rest is toy-fetish.

No one would want to go back to dial-up Internet, but apart from some
databases like Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy and PLOS and
online banking, I see little of interest. If I had the energy, I
might design some university courses as video games - I was involved
in something rather like that in the 80s when the technology was too
limiting. I've just played my way through something called Darkspore
to see how the new technology might apply and can see that it could.

Our current legal-political-commercial paradigm is decadent. This is
why Apple is in court over rounded squares and hieroglyphics.

On 28 Aug, 08:47, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Molly what you are saying about the patent office  to vary it a little,, is
> I am allowed to copy the Mona Lisa , put my name on it ,, then copy write
> it, then I control the design of any one wanting to reproduce it in any
> form I can sue. Apple has stolen from our history intentionally  and is
> trying to deceive the public. the shape and design belongs to the entire
> world and any one is allowed to use it.
> Allan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes that is true Molly  but the slate Table existed long before copy
> > writes existed.  For this reason alone the design can not be a copy write.
> >  Apple already had lost that argument in England and Apple has to publish
> >  written that Samsung  that were did not violate its copy writes.
>
> > All apple did was go though items that were copy writed to save time..
> >  and they know that the the slate tablet existed long before,,  I think
> > they even used a slate tablet in an advertisement.  The Jury ruling has to
> > be over ridden when that information becomes public.   the design sits
> > in emanate domain.
> > Allan
>
> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> If the copyright was granted, it was a valid application.  The office
> >> of copyright does a thorough search of previous copyrights issued
> >> before granting.  Now, anyone can file a lawsuit in the US, and a
> >> judge or jury decides if the copyright has been infringed.
>
> >> On Aug 27, 9:57 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > they don't pay dividends.. they have over a billion in china so they do
> >> not
> >> > have to pay US taxes..  I will  leave the politics out of it.. they
> >> lost in
> >> > England the same case,,   and they have to print for online and
> >> television
> >> > for 6 months that samsung did not steal their ideas..
>
> >> > I have a hunch before to long long Apple will face problems for filing
> >> > false copy right claims..  I do think they are over their head and do
> >> not
> >> > know it yet. Their problems are just beginning including their lawyers..
> >> >  oh yeah big trouble..
> >> > Allan
>
> >> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > Not sure if Apple even pays a dividend- I think the stock is trading
> >> > > in the $600.'s and is now described as the most profitable company on
> >> > > earth beating out Exxon-Mobile (who still hasn't fixed the Valdez
> >> > > spill/aftermath which may be impossible anyway). So while I agree I
> >> > > would be gracious for Apple to donate to food programs, I think it
> >> > > would be for the sake of pr at this time as they are essentially a
> >> > > snob catering to narcisstic, conspicuous consumer types, i.e. creating
> >> > > their own universe and standards. More companies than Samsung will be
> >> > > affected.// The world is looney. Too bad the craftsmen that created
> >> > > those ever-gorgeous Gothic cathedrals can't sue the dull, repetitive
> >> > > skyscrapers that clutter the canyons of commerce.
>
> >> > > On Aug 27, 5:42 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Gabby ,,  my material world is reasonably secure  and I do not see
> >> how
> >> > > that
> >> > > > has any relevance to lawsuits brought by apple against Samsung..
> >> and they
> >> > > > own and control the design of the slate tablet.
>
> >> > > > As for cooling down ..  i hope I never do, it is important to say
> >> > > something
> >> > > > when there is a major wrong doing   especially when it is a major
> >> > > > corporation. One should not remain silent when you observe a
> >> criminal
> >> > > > violating the law. if for no other reason we all have to pay for
> >> these
> >> > > > crimes.
>
> >> > > > As for Apple I think they should be required to put up the
> >> equivalent
> >> > > > amount of cash as they are suing for  to one of the UN children
> >> > > programs..
> >> > > >  maybe corporations will think twice about stealing what is not
> >> theirs.
> >> > > > Allan
>
> >> > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > The pursuit of happiness needs to be secured in its material
> >> > > > > manifestations in the here and now, is one possible explanation to
> >> > > > > make you cool down and understand the well meaning idea behind
> >> how you
> >> > > > > experience this matter. Embrace this and get on with your life.
>
> >> > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > As I live in the Netherlands now and am hearing about the
> >> massive law
> >> > > > > suit
> >> > > > > > brought by Apple over its intellectual design of their tablet..
> >>  How
> >> > > can
> >> > > > > you
> >> > > > > > claim copy write to something they did not design   but was
> >> designed
> >> > > > > > centuries ago.
>
> >> > > > > > I have some serious problems that, they did not design the
> >> rounded
> >> > > > > corners
> >> > > > > > with the square writing surface.. I bought a  chalk / slate
> >> tablet of
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > design long before  Apple existed..  Dr Caroline McGill,  the
> >> Lady
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > started the rock Mountain museum showed one and told me that is
> >> what
> >> > > she
> >> > > > > > used for going to school learning her alphabet and math on, by
> >> now
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > would have been well over one hundred years ago,  who ever
> >> actually
> >> > > owned
> >> > > > > > the copyright it has expired long ago. That person or persons is
> >> > > lost in
> >> > > > > > history.
>
> >> > > > > > As I pick up my modern day slate board to write this email  I am
> >> > > angry
> >> > > > > over
> >> > > > > > some arrogant rich corporation claiming the slate board design
> >> as
> >> > > their
> >> > > > > > intellectual property. As for rounded corners,, well that copy
> >> write
> >> > > > > belongs
> >> > > > > > to some father protecting his beloved child.
> >> > > > > > Allan
>
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > >  (
> >> > > > > >   )
> >> > > > > > |_D Allan
>
> >> > > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> >> > > > > > --
>
> >> > > > > --
>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >  (
> >> > > >   )
> >> > > > |_D Allan
>
> >> > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > > --
>
> >> > --
> >> >  (
> >> >   )
> >> > |_D Allan
>
> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> >> --
>
> > --
> >  (
> >   )
> > |_D Allan
>
> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> --
>  (
>   )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

--