Re: Mind's Eye self forgiveness

Jumping in here- my idea of "morbid guilt" would be that which
paralyzes development past a trauma. It is different than the tumbling/
domino reaction that a traumatic event sparks- more like physics or
chemical reaction, in a way. But...what is identity?

I don't find you "simple", Allan. Why do you disparage yourself? Thank
you for being "here" so loyally- whatever "here" means! :-)

Back to your comment about AA- essentially a seflish program of
necessity. Older alcoholics who had money would go to spas and
steambath their way to sobriety- until the next bout. I never even
heard of AA until I was in my 30's- at that point I joined an Alanon
group at a nearby church but think the divorce rate pretty high from
that group- it probably was part of the motive of joining up- keeping
score, so to speak, rather than understanding the spiritual element.
At the same time, treatment centers started springing up- last I
heard, getting sober might cost 5 figures a month. There is another
element now of drug addicts going to AA rather than narco-something
which introduces a whole new can of worms. Anyway, I think drinking
alone is what got me in trouble when all the children had "graduated"
the nest- but I was ripe, anyway. lol I really don't miss drinking but
have thought if I got a fatal diagnosis in the future, I might need a
few shots of single malt whiskey to ease the way to eternity.

On Jul 19, 2:48 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know I am simple James,  but what do you mean by morbid guilt?
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:59 AM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/17/2012 6:50 AM, Molly wrote:
>
> >> I have a friend who is contemplating self forgiveness. Any suggestions?
>
> > Look back from a context of greater maturity, in the meantime apply time
> > and experience: pursue excellence, appreciate moderation, respect processes.
>
> > Through personal growth pieces of the story begin falling in place,
> > motives are replaced with expanded and stronger ones.
>
> > Morbid guilt might be another matter, where it mixes with identity seems
> > very elusive. I have a friend that would much appreciate your input.
>
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> |_D Allan
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.