Hoi Don
The Weasel Bush well it is a intense dislike especially a dis like for political thieves..
Years ago I went though trade retraining because of work related injuries. That is how I became a silver smith.. Went down to Wyoming and actually found a good location to set up a jewelry shop complete with its own built in apartment.. I would have needed a small business loan to help me get every thing set up and running..
The realtor was a Veteran and was helping with the paper work.. It turned out the Weasel Bush and his buddy Chaney (While Daddy was president) got into the small business funds of Wyoming and manage to get all of them so the Weasel could drill and oil well.. it was in an area where 8 well were already drilled and all of them were dry including the one Bush drilled.
I think small business administration is an excellent program,, but I really do object to it being used to line a persons pockets with gold at the taxpayers expense,, Even more so when the government rip off is done with purely political connections..
I would have never known this except i tried to get a SBA grant. The realtor found out though his connects what happened to the funds.
Now you know,, it is not 2nd hand information as it happened to me..
It has left an even greater dislike and distrust for all politicians,, now it is their actions that I look at.. And the Spin doctors the professional people following politics ,, they put out what they are paid to say.. Promotion Promotion, promotion.. I don't buy what the spin doctors say any of them hey are like the people reporting on he stock market before the crash,, they did not have a clue.
Now Don I think should know my dislike.. and why..
Allan
On Jul 10, 2012 1:22 AM, "Don Johnson" <dajohn@gmail.com> wrote:
Truth is I pay little heed to what politicians of any faction or
stripe say anymore. I do listen and pay attention to the pundits.
Those that make a living watching and studying past and present
politics and economics. All the folks I respect freely admit Bush's
excessive spending contributed to our current mess. His medicare
boondoggle first and foremost. I have no issue with admitting the
obvious but what I would like to do, or more precisely what I'd like
politicians to do is LEARN from them. Unfettered Capitalism leaves too
many in the cold and unable to survive during the inevitable down
cycles. Cradle to grave Socialism destroys the work ethic and breeds
dependency and apathy. We need something in between. IMHO, much closer
to the unfettered side then the Mommy side. We clearly disagree Allan
but that doesn't mean I don't understand your resentment of Bush et
al. I think perhaps your judgement may be clouded with unreasoning
dislike and a failure to recognise intent. All in all, we are where we
are because of us. Not one man or even one party or one philosophy is
at fault here. We have a conflict of Zeitgeist in this country.
We have this wonderful tool the Internet where we can learn all about
cause and effect and human nature and historical reactions to unfair
taxes/regulations and yet still our leaders make the same mistakes.
Why? Because it gets them reelected. Keeps them in that 6 mpg
bulletproof Hummer so they can go to all the Global Warming marches in
safety. Drinking Dom Peregnon and eating Beluga whale caviar and
getting 500 dollar haircuts on the tarmac. But dammit, we need the
hard workers out there to pay more taxes. We have to send Jr. to
school to get a degree in Political Science and all that studying
required will make him too busy to hold down a job don't you see?
The rich are fleeing in droves. Obama's possibly politically expedient
speeches against "the rich"(those making over 250k) are actually very
dangerous for our future tax revenue. Some well heeled Chinese
thinking of coming here to escape China's thickening iron curtain may
decide instead to go to Singapore. Or Austria. Or some Caribbean
Island. We aren't first on the list anymore and there's plenty of
"blame" to go around for that. First and foremost being unreasonable
corp. taxes and sometimes silly EPA regulations. The irony here is we
could be on the verge of another 20 year run of huge profits and
massive advancement in medical, energy and electronic fields. If ONLY
government would remove the jackboot off our necks and let us make a
few mistakes. The private sector, unlike the public, can learn from
these mistakes. Just don't subsidize risk out of the equation like we
did with the banks and insurance companies and big car companies and
select "green" energy companies.
Politicians seldom think past their own noses and this lack of
foresight is destroying us. Life is messy. You can't save everybody.
Just remove some of the more onerous impediments and allow us to save
ourselves. We can do it. We've done it before.
dj
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:01 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Another term is "pitch men" or "snake-oil merchants". And you do not
> think that the Democrats or Liberals are guilty of the same behavior/
> spin? Let's be honest and fair, Allan.
>
> On Jul 8, 2:55 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Governments, especially politician are notorious at lies. the governments
>> hide everything they can and that is done by employees,, and people do the
>> accepting and are not willing to remember the lies of the past..
>>
>> I hear about the deficit and how bad it is by the republicans are saying
>> but they are not saying that the majority of it and the republican party
>> created,, form Reaganomics through the private wars of the Weasel
>> (appointed president) Bush. then blame the other people who are having
>> to straighten out their mess.. Voting for tax breaks for themselves and
>> their friends while balancing the budget on the backs of the poor and
>> retired..
>> denying the responsibilities for their actions.
>>
>> These are the comforting lies that fuel the government. distorted to meet
>> their personal desires.. Religions are not any better. The list goes on
>> and on all saying they believe but their actions say something totally
>> different.
>>
>> The real question is how long will people follow the war torn and
>> starvation filled comforting lies. The same ones in different forms they
>> have followed for eons.
>> Unchanging comforting lies.
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The problem with comforting lies is dealing with the fallout when the
>> > truth comes out as it inevitably does. I understand there are a few banks
>> > with some splainin to do with regard to manipulations of the LIBOR. No
>> > doubt their goal was for the benefit of mankind and to prevent panic and so
>> > forth and had nothing to do with personal advancement. The public should
>> > keep this in mind while sharpening the guillotines.
>>
>> > That said, I still tell my son everything will be fine and we're in no
>> > danger of a third world war and all people are the same blah, blah, blah.
>> > Yes, I am a liar. I also enable his belief in God. Comforting lies. I do
>> > this to keep him from worrying and with the full realization that if he
>> > knew what I knew he'd not be able to do anything about it anyway. He's
>> > completely dependent on me and will be until I die. I know he couldn't take
>> > care of himself if he had to. Which gets me to thinking. Is this why
>> > our governments fail to disclose what's really going on economically and
>> > internationally? Do they think we're all a bunch of mentally disturbed slow
>> > learners and need their constant guidance?
>>
>> > Some probably do believe this but most do it to cover their asses and get
>> > reelected and keep that sweet spigot spewing tax payer's dollars. They
>> > never admit mistakes and so therefore continue to make them while jet
>> > setting across the world spreading their "message" as the world burns. The
>> > new news in the Johnson family is we're now all firmly on the Federal Teat
>> > suckling along with over half the other citizens of this once fine nation.
>> > I've found various legal ways to avoid paying almost all my income taxes
>> > while my folks are heavily using Medicare and my son just went on SSI and
>> > will soon be on Medicaid. I felt forced into doing it and I feel a little
>> > dirty but it's saving me money and I may need every dime very soon.
>>
>> > It's a brave new world.
>>
>> > dj
>>
>> > On Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:21:38 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> >> Some what,, and the dawns can not be replaced by all the wealth the world
>> >> has to offer..
>> >> Allan
>>
>> >> Yes the dawn always comes.
>>
>> >> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> sounds like you do understand the dark night of the soul. And the
>> >>> dawn.
>>
>> >>> On Jul 7, 4:56 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Crawling though a broken and boarded window I see the grounds covered
>> >>> with
>> >>> > the ruins of war greed and selfishness. Comforting lies hid the that
>> >>> few
>> >>> > have ever tread. Dust of ages have hidden the narrow ..... searching
>> >>> it is
>> >>> > here some where.
>> >>> > Allan
>>
>> >>> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > > Steadily plodding eastward I head toward the eastern gate and the
>> >>> oasis
>> >>> > > that refreshes parched thirst. Peace will fill my soul as I lay down
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > rest, The troubles will fall aside as the Entirety accepts me within
>> >>> it's
>> >>> > > being.
>> >>> > > Allan
>> >>> > > On Jul 7, 2012 9:24 AM, "Allan H" <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > >> The sounds of my foot steps echo though the empty halls as the gods
>> >>> of
>> >>> > >> wisdom plot their vengeance on my unrepentant soul.
>> >>> > >> On Jul 6, 2012 9:26 PM, "Allan H" <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > >>> I know,, a lot of expense goes int to avoiding the question.
>> >>> > >>> Allan
>>
>> >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:30 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > >>>> It's all over the place when you think of it from advertising to
>> >>> > >>>> history/politics to social conventions, medicine, etc. There may
>> >>> be
>> >>> > >>>> some stigma in being a skeptic or realist. Then, think of the
>> >>> wasted
>> >>> > >>>> energy/time in propping up the lie. It is rather amazing.
>>
>> >>> > >>>> On Jul 6, 3:21 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > >>>> > Hoi everyone,,
>> >>> > >>>> > A few days ago I saw a cartoon of two men at a desk one man
>> >>> offered
>> >>> > >>>> the
>> >>> > >>>> > simple truth, the other offered a comforting lie. the people
>> >>> were
>> >>> > >>>> lined up
>> >>> > >>>> > on the booth with the comforting lie. As I think about that I
>> >>> can not
>> >>> > >>>> help
>> >>> > >>>> > but think of our duality, Our physical mortality is well
>> >>> known. All
>> >>> > >>>> though
>> >>> > >>>> > there is no real denial of death, what I see is a scramble for
>> >>> the
>> >>> > >>>> > comforting lies hidden within different religions and beliefs.
>> >>> People
>> >>> > >>>> > scrambling to find their comforting lie.
>>
>> >>> > >>>> > What I do not see a lot of is people is really trying to
>> >>> understand
>> >>> > >>>> the
>> >>> > >>>> > other half of our natural duality, we are well aware of the
>> >>> physical
>> >>> > >>>> side,,
>> >>> > >>>> > but what really is the other side of the duality.
>> >>> > >>>> > Allan
>>
>> >>> > >>>> > --
>> >>> > >>>> > (
>> >>> > >>>> > )
>> >>> > >>>> > |_D Allan
>>
>> >>> > >>>> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> >>> > >>> --
>> >>> > >>> (
>> >>> > >>> )
>> >>> > >>> |_D Allan
>>
>> >>> > >>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > (
>> >>> > )
>> >>> > |_D Allan
>>
>> >>> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> (
>> >> )
>> >> |_D Allan
>>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> --
>> (
>> )
>> |_D Allan
>>
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