Saturday, March 17, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: The Unconscious

Even as a ritualistic creature I know yesterday is gone, we may not
step in the same stream twice. Yet I can return to an earlier
experience in a different environment.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
> As long as I am alive I am conscious of the world and myself , but when I am
> dead I reach a state of permanent unconsciousness , a state of supreme peace
> where nothing disturbs me , a sort of nirvana. that is the ultimate state
> from which nobody returns.
>
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2012 3:32:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ash wrote:
>>
>> This does make some sense to me RP so I hope my question doesn't sound
>> critical. For me thinking in this way causes a massive amount of
>> difficulty, as it sounds like immutable truths, so I have to translate
>> away the language to get glints of my own thinking through. We could
>> easily call my predicament not seeing the forest for the trees, and
>> that would be a fitting if not limited statement. In my mind I prefer
>> to start with the will representing laws of nature which are dynamic,
>> and work more along an opportunistic heuristic. For me it is obvious
>> that some people talk about an n-dimensional entity, but n is an
>> aspect of scope in one's perspective. If n is potentially infinite,
>> then the truths may have strength but are more optimizations than
>> static ontology. I am wondering if there is some useful perspective
>> that can be used in my situation, or perhaps it is a hopeless case.
>> Perhaps you have something to help me?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:21 AM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Neil , there is no difference. The universe is not nature but a
>> > manifestation of Nature or God. It is unconscious but not dead, as
>> > that would have meant no life , further it has to be unconscious as
>> > the conscious is always bound to certain limits and is dual.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> That's a little bit different - and I'm in agreement.  Some scientists
>> >> have suggested we could make a universe with life conditions in the
>> >> laboratory - still leaving us with issues about beginnings.  Science
>> >> fiction wise one can imagine making such universes in order to travel
>> >> in time in them to discover more on how we were made - by occupying
>> >> earlier stages of them.  I tend to think of the unconscious as what
>> >> isn't in rational consciousness, but I know this is inadequate as much
>> >> human consciousness in action is not known to the participants
>> >> rationally.
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 5, 2:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious Nature
>> >>> which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and
>> >>> inaction.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > That doesn't help RP.  Why this rather than a host of alternatives?
>> >>>
>> >>> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and
>> >>> >> consciousness ,
>> >>> >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and without
>> >>> >> attributes.
>> >>>
>> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation
>> >>> >> > which
>> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have
>> >>> >> > choice , but
>> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory
>> >>> >> > of the
>> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by
>> >>> >> > laws and
>> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".
>> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation
>> >>> >> > which
>> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have
>> >>> >> > choice , but
>> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the trajectory
>> >>> >> > of the
>> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound by
>> >>> >> > laws and
>> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".

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