[Mind's Eye] Re: My fellow zombies

That's a wonderful thought but a line I have no idea about.

I've been to tea plantations in north-east and the coffee plantations
in Mannar and Coorg down south here. They are amazing, beautiful, and
give you the feeling of " This is It !"

Glad to resume our interaction, Rigsy !

On Aug 3, 6:59 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Two of my sons want us to start a coffee plantation. I keep thinking
> of Isak Dinesen/Karen Blixen- "Out of Africa".
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> On Aug 2, 7:06 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Seems everybody else is competent, knowledgeable and certain about
> > matters only " X " may be privy to !
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> > Today morning, I toyed with the thought... then asked for a cup of
> > coffee instead of the usual tea. It's a matter of fact... I do not
> > remember having coffee as my first cup of the day.
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> > Then, too, I toyed with the thought... and decided to take my car for
> > pollution check today itself, when I could easily have performed the
> > task on any one the next 5 days.
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> > Now, all my contemporaries can show me the research papers, the
> > library full... and can pronounce with all manner of reasoning and
> > rhetoric, their own beliefs and opinions, but the fact that is clear
> > to me, as was then when it happened and now as I recall... is that I
> > did act out of my own free will.
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> > I believe it's everyone's job and responsibility to come to their own
> > understanding and conclusion in such matters, and actually fob off all
> > manner of opinions that ' scientists ' and ' researchers ' are
> > throwing out ... dicting and contradicting, everyday.
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> > I suspect matters are much simpler and immediately accessible to each
> > one of us.
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> > On Aug 2, 10:51 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > "We have access to a technology that would have looked like sorcery in
> > > Descartes's day: the ability to peer inside someone's head and read
> > > their thoughts. Unfortunately, that doesn't take us any nearer to
> > > knowing whether they are sentient. "Even if you measure brainwaves,
> > > you can never know exactly what experience they represent," says
> > > psychologist Bruce Hood at the University of Bristol, UK.  If
> > > anything, brain scanning has undermined Descartes's maxim. You, too,
> > > might be a zombie. "I happen to be one myself," says Stanford
> > > University philosopher Paul Skokowski. "And so, even if you don't
> > > realise it, are you." Skokowski's assertion is based on the belief,
> > > particularly common among neuroscientists who study brain scans, that
> > > we do not have free will. There is no ghost in the machine; our
> > > actions are driven by brain states that lie entirely beyond our
> > > control. "I think, therefore I am" might be an illusion.
> > > So, it may well be that you live in a computer simulation in which you
> > > are the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie and so
> > > could you. Have an interesting day." (from a recent New Scientist)
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> > > We range over debates in free will and what it is to be human. So far
> > > we haven't established free will or even that we are not merely
> > > avatars in 'something else's game'.
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> > > I wonder whether there are advantages in considering ourselves as
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