Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: My thoughts on absolute good and evil

Personally I think it is the generals that should do the fighting. And
all advisors should face the firing squad victorious or not.. Just
because the are advisors.. (getting rid oe back seat generals)
Allan

On Monday, July 18, 2011, rigsy03 <rigsy03@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Jul 17, 11:38 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> tongue in cheek?
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>> On Jul 17, 9:08 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > I read a Time mag article on a concert pianist I admired- he was from
>> > a large family and his mother considered an abortion but changed her
>> > mind. That fixed my opinion rather than Church doctrines- which had
>> > allowed abortions, btw. I read- maybe Wm. Manchetser's slim volume on
>> > Chuch history, but maybe not- that the Vatican made a deal with France
>> > so it would repopulate after Napoleon. I am anti-abortion but don't
>> > run the country.
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>> >  Rape was a bonus for military victories, wasn't it? Women were
>> > considered as objects. I don't think castration was considered, was
>> > it? Even Ike left Berlin females to the fate rapes of the Ruskies.
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>> > Yes- let's send the politicians and brass off to the wars they invent
>> > along with the general population who pays for them. Imagine the
>> > charge of Hilary's brigade! She can take Weiner along for the ride- he
>> > can be her press secretary!
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>> > Yes- wars are a great boost to medicine- especially new surgical
>> > techniques and many a millionaire starts as a war profiteer.
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>> > On Jul 17, 12:29 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> > > Hi rigsy and Tony. You bring up a few issues I ponder and question.
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>> > > First, it appears that neither of you are against abortion on the
>> > > grounds that it is killing, something that I believe it is… and I
>> > > still think it should be legal. Yet you both, perhaps for slightly
>> > > different reasons seen to think abortions should be 'avoided'. Both
>> > > cite 'convenience' as a reason that is not acceptable. Rigsy says that
>> > > giving birth is 'part of the cycle of life' as a reason and Tony says
>> > > that it is 'cold. He further implies that to abort, it must be
>> > > 'understandable'. This is one reason I leave it to the mother…since
>> > > what is 'understandable' (including the notion of 'convenience') are
>> > > in the eye of the beholder.
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>> > > Rigsy then shared all sorts of practical justification for her moral
>> > > stance. As to the being part of the cycle of life, so is death as Tony
>> > > points out! Also, an apparent wish to further the overpopulation of
>> > > Earth because we can (medical 'advances'), historical gender
>> > > preferences and one countries solution to overpopulation (one child/
>> > > couple) not appearing to be perfect in her eyes all seem to be
>> > > incomplete 'reasons' or at worst, not valid ones.
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>> > > Tony shares how most life 'in nature' just isn't 'good' and ends in
>> > > death. To me, if the requirement for living is to have a good life,
>> > > the majority of women on Earth should have been put to death long ago
>> > > because of the extensive occurrence of rape, slave trade, poverty,
>> > > hunger, disease etc. This is *IF* one accepts the premise. I won't
>> > > even address his notion of abortion being 'cold'.
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>> > > As to his first mention of being against the draft, I too shared that
>> > > stance long ago. More recently (the last couple of decades) I see the
>> > > necessity for a draft as a way of affecting all socioeconomic groups
>> > > thus forcing a wider opinion…hopefully against…of supplying cannon
>> > > fodder. With no draft, the elite including lawmakers never have to
>> > > personally face the issue and can avoid doing so more easily.
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>> > > OM
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>> > > On Jul 17, 5:48 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > > Definitely there are reasons to abort: incest, rape, physical (mental)
>> > > > state of mother, incomplete/damaged fetus. I am against convenience
>> > > > abortions. Weak babies were once left to die- now modern medicine can
>> > > > save them. Boys were preferred to girls. China's one-child policy is
>> > > > back-firing. Well, there are many related topics. I see the bearing
>> > > > and raising of children as part of> ...
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