maces. That'll slow us down.
War and Peace,
Tony
On Jul 18, 2:50 am, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally I think it is the generals that should do the fighting. And
> all advisors should face the firing squad victorious or not.. Just
> because the are advisors.. (getting rid oe back seat generals)
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2011, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ?
>
> > On Jul 17, 11:38 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> tongue in cheek?
>
> >> On Jul 17, 9:08 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I read a Time mag article on a concert pianist I admired- he was from
> >> > a large family and his mother considered an abortion but changed her
> >> > mind. That fixed my opinion rather than Church doctrines- which had
> >> > allowed abortions, btw. I read- maybe Wm. Manchetser's slim volume on
> >> > Chuch history, but maybe not- that the Vatican made a deal with France
> >> > so it would repopulate after Napoleon. I am anti-abortion but don't
> >> > run the country.
>
> >> > Rape was a bonus for military victories, wasn't it? Women were
> >> > considered as objects. I don't think castration was considered, was
> >> > it? Even Ike left Berlin females to the fate rapes of the Ruskies.
>
> >> > Yes- let's send the politicians and brass off to the wars they invent
> >> > along with the general population who pays for them. Imagine the
> >> > charge of Hilary's brigade! She can take Weiner along for the ride- he
> >> > can be her press secretary!
>
> >> > Yes- wars are a great boost to medicine- especially new surgical
> >> > techniques and many a millionaire starts as a war profiteer.
>
> >> > On Jul 17, 12:29 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > Hi rigsy and Tony. You bring up a few issues I ponder and question.
>
> >> > > First, it appears that neither of you are against abortion on the
> >> > > grounds that it is killing, something that I believe it is… and I
> >> > > still think it should be legal. Yet you both, perhaps for slightly
> >> > > different reasons seen to think abortions should be 'avoided'. Both
> >> > > cite 'convenience' as a reason that is not acceptable. Rigsy says that
> >> > > giving birth is 'part of the cycle of life' as a reason and Tony says
> >> > > that it is 'cold. He further implies that to abort, it must be
> >> > > 'understandable'. This is one reason I leave it to the mother…since
> >> > > what is 'understandable' (including the notion of 'convenience') are
> >> > > in the eye of the beholder.
>
> >> > > Rigsy then shared all sorts of practical justification for her moral
> >> > > stance. As to the being part of the cycle of life, so is death as Tony
> >> > > points out! Also, an apparent wish to further the overpopulation of
> >> > > Earth because we can (medical 'advances'), historical gender
> >> > > preferences and one countries solution to overpopulation (one child/
> >> > > couple) not appearing to be perfect in her eyes all seem to be
> >> > > incomplete 'reasons' or at worst, not valid ones.
>
> >> > > Tony shares how most life 'in nature' just isn't 'good' and ends in
> >> > > death. To me, if the requirement for living is to have a good life,
> >> > > the majority of women on Earth should have been put to death long ago
> >> > > because of the extensive occurrence of rape, slave trade, poverty,
> >> > > hunger, disease etc. This is *IF* one accepts the premise. I won't
> >> > > even address his notion of abortion being 'cold'.
>
> >> > > As to his first mention of being against the draft, I too shared that
> >> > > stance long ago. More recently (the last couple of decades) I see the
> >> > > necessity for a draft as a way of affecting all socioeconomic groups
> >> > > thus forcing a wider opinion…hopefully against…of supplying cannon
> >> > > fodder. With no draft, the elite including lawmakers never have to
> >> > > personally face the issue and can avoid doing so more easily.
>
> >> > > OM
>
> >> > > On Jul 17, 5:48 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Definitely there are reasons to abort: incest, rape, physical (mental)
> >> > > > state of mother, incomplete/damaged fetus. I am against convenience
> >> > > > abortions. Weak babies were once left to die- now modern medicine can
> >> > > > save them. Boys were preferred to girls. China's one-child policy is
> >> > > > back-firing. Well, there are many related topics. I see the bearing
> >> > > > and raising of children as part of> ...
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> I_D Allan
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