Thursday, July 14, 2011

[Mind's Eye] Re: My thoughts on absolute good and evil

Oh okay, Thanks.

Tony

On Jul 11, 9:04 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tony, you as a new poster here are on moderation. Another post or two
> and your moderated state will be removed.
>
> OM
> Moderator
>
> On Jul 11, 1:41 pm, Tony Orlow <t...@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ben -
>
> > I gave a long reply earlier but it didn't show up, so this is just a
> > test, and if it works, I'll try to repeat myself.
> > Nice question and thoughts, in the meantime, anyway.
>
> > Peace,
> > Tony
>
> > On Jul 8, 11:16 pm, Ben <artistta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I do not believe that we can define good and evil without entering
> > > into a philosophical conversation.
>
> > > Good and evil are not absolute rules nor can there be a universal good
> > > or a universal evil.
> > > The concept of what is good and what is evil must be taught to us as a
> > > child, because we are not born inherently good or evil.
>
> > > To murder is bad. However the statement does not speak of a universal
> > > good. Murder in so many cases has been used in good ways.
> > > Euthanization has been used to end a suffering patients life. Abortion
> > > has been used to prevent a child from being born when childbirth could
> > > end a mothers life. To murder is bad in many cases but not all. The
> > > extreme case of the word murder means to kill another human being
> > > under conditions specifically covered in law. We can not define murder
> > > without discussing the implications. There are many instances where
> > > murder must be re-defined as a good not a bad.
>
> > > A child is not born inherently good or evil. Human beings are unique
> > > in the power of our brain. We are able to quickly associate good and
> > > bad. These associations are learned from society, our elders and
> > > peers. A child that is born with no contact from these influences will
> > > associate good and evil with pain and suffering. A child with contact
> > > from these influences will be able to conceptualize good and evil and
> > > apply it to many different aspects of everyday life.
>
> > > Finally, no universal good or evil will ever be agreed upon. There is
> > > no absolute good or bad that we must all follow. One concept can
> > > impede on another and we must accept those societies that have a
> > > rational way of thinking. Each society must continue to evolve these
> > > rules and change the commandments that were made centuries ago to fit
> > > the present day reality of life. To murder is bad, however we live in
> > > a civilized county in which many cases of murder are legal because
> > > they are good. No one is born inherently good or evil and our society
> > > must continue to define every aspect of what could be good or bad in
> > > order to teach our children and they to develop their own, more
> > > complete understanding to be taught to their children.
>
> > > I challenge those of you who have read this to define an absolute good
> > > and evil.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ben Kaylor

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