[Mind's Eye] Re: Enlightenment

Umm RP I don't think I can agree with you here.

Whether a transendental moment occoures via drugs or meditation or
other avenues, the same thing happens in the brain.

The I we speak about is present in the brain, when the brain is dead
the I has gone, to suggest that this change in brain chemistry if
occouring via drugs is not spirtual makes no sense to me.

If I walk across the road or run, I still get to the other side. The
end result is the same no matter what route I take.

As to God state, then being Sikh I simply must disagree. The aim of
my faith is obtaining Gurmukh(God conceiousness)whilst still alive.

On Jul 12, 9:11 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Happy birthday, Ash!
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> Hope i got this right; if i didn't, happy birthday anyway! :)
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> On Jul 12, 2:42 am, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > [Life] hath many doors [yet to open] RP. Shouldn't there be infinite
> > potential between absolutes?
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> > I've gotten the new-ish Sam Harris book about Morality, a great German's
> > Chocolate-deluxe cupcake thingie with a candle and everything! It's that
> > time of year again. 28, FTW!
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> > On 7/11/2011 2:12 PM, RP Singh wrote:
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> > > The state of enlightenment , or self-realization , is simply a state
> > > of awareness like the dream -state or deep-sleep , and can be attained
> > > through concentration or substance - use. It is the mind which is
> > > aware and as the mind is finite , whatever it is aware of is also
> > > finite. The very fact that the so-called transcendental state can be
> > > experienced through use of entheogens casts a doubt about its
> > > spiritual nature. A person experiences such a state and when he comes
> > > out of it is just his ordinary self. God-state cannot be experienced
> > > by any being as it is beyond experience and can only be understood. We
> > > find it difficult to accept that we are mortal and hence believe in
> > > re-incarnation etc.  The fact is that the " I " has nowhere to go on
> > > the death of the organism , it is simply an attribute of life and is
> > > no more on the death of the body , and  is thus just an " illusion " .
> > > This is , of course , my reading of the matter and can be erroneous as
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