Monday, June 6, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: The " I " factor

*snickers* Or vice versa. God sent us angels to show us how to act. In retrospect we must have looked like madmen to them.


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Pat <PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com> wrote:


On May 31, 6:31 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Will of God is not visible and one's nature is not a single
> entity--good or bad , rather one's nature contains both good and bad ,
> the super-ego and the id. It is in one's hand to follow the good
> prompting of his nature or the evil in him. It is your choice , do
> good in the interest of longterm benefit or the bad for short-term
> gains.As to the Will of God , He has made you a partner in His Will ,
> you have to choose, act with reason or follow your impulses like a
> madman.
>

As no ones will is truly visible, the lack of visibility to God's Will
is, generally, irrelevant.  But, looking around at 'All There Is', is
all that not a visible aspect to the Will of God?  We would not see
anything if it weren't for the Will of God for us to see and for there
to be things to see.

Also, good and evil are not akin to superego and id.  The id is not
evil, nor is the superego good nor vice versa.

For a madman to exist is evidence that it is the Will of God to
include madmen in God's universe.  Is that reasonable?  I, for one,
would have to admit that it must be on account of God's omniscience
and my profound lack of it; however, the necessity of whether or not a
madman or many madmen should exist is NOT obvious.  I draw the
conclusion that humans are incredibly forgetful and require
reminding.  And, so, God sends us madmen as proof of how NOT to act.

>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Pat <PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 31, 5:24 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Whatever a man does he is bound to do as the Will of God is supreme,
> >> but a person is not a robot. The " I " is an active agent and it is
> >> the individual who taking control over his nature does good in this
> >> world and on letting himself go does the bad. Strength of resolve is
> >> inherent in every person , some use it a lot, others let their
> >> impulses rule most of the time. It is in man's hand to keep his nature
> >> under control , and again in his hand to let it run amok.
>
> > I agree with one exception.  Actually, it's more of an inclusion.  An
> > individual must discover their nature before taking control of it.
> > Then the rest follows...good or bad.  For example, I fully believe
> > that Charles Manson DID discover his true nature and STILL inflicted
> > great injuries against humanity.  The same for Hitler.  Sometimes,
> > knowing one's nature does not prevent one from doing evil but leads
> > them to do it.  In other words, if it is God's will that X be done and
> > X is perceived by most people to be evil, X will still be done, as it
> > is the will of God.- Hide quoted text -
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