Tuesday, June 7, 2011

[Mind's Eye] Re: The " I " factor

On Jun 7, 11:45 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Always the same problem - the all too easy answers are censored for my
> country. :( You Americans can be so happy that you are free to tube whatever
> you want.
> Is this Charlie Chaplin singing "Sieg Heil"?
>

Nope, it's Adolf. Which is why, most likely, it's censored to you.

> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:46 AM, ornamentalmind
> <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > Ash asks "...what would we say if he succeeded?..."
>
> > The answer is all too easy:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezr3dW4J5s
>
> > On Jun 6, 7:15 pm, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 6/6/2011 8:51 AM, Pat wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 6, 12:50 pm, RP Singh<123...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > >> Pat , what makes you so sure that Charles Manson and Hitler were
> > > >> following their true nature , if there is such a thing.
>
> > > > Also, with respect to Manson, he was happy in prison and didn't mind
> > > > returning at all.  He'd already spent over half his life behind bars
> > > > of some variety and was only too happy to let California feed, clothe
> > > > and shelter him at full cost to the taxpayer.  Manson, a true
> > > > freeloader with a penchant for controlling others did exactly what one
> > > > might expect from him, if one knew him.  He controlled a few people
> > > > and acted in such a way as to land himself back in prison
> > > > forever...purely his true nature.  Hitler, as he's no longer alive, is
> > > > harder to assess, but, I think you'll find that he really didn't like
> > > > Jews to the point of extermination, if possible.  Same for Romany
> > > > gypsies, blacks and homosexuals.  He had an idea of a perfect race
> > > > (one that conflicted with his own traits, mind) and acted in such a
> > > > way as to bring that about.  Of course, he was incorrect in thinking
> > > > that race matters at all (one might have thought a look in the mirror
> > > > would have convinced him, but apparently not) and was defeated.
>
> > > Very interesting reasoning Pat, I've heard an argument like this before
> > > but think it's used as a farce, never heard it outright! The scariest
> > > shit.. I just might agree, logically it doesn't seem to make sense
> > > otherwise. Either take the whole package, or sacrifice omnipresence:
> > > unless there is a rock God can-not lift (there's an oxymoron). If you
> > > carry on like this I will have to buy your book, just to imagine all the
> > > pious ones out there stamping their foot and flaring nostrils at the
> > > nerve of someone pointing it out. But really, what kind of revolutionary
> > > doesn't walk into a conversation and agree with everyone then exceed all
> > > expectations by pissing them all off (something I try to bottle up in a
> > > chuckle). Good game! :D> But he still serves as a great 'bad example'.
>
> > > I wonder, what would we say if he succeeded? Aside from the scientific
> > > in-/validity of the �bermensch hypothesis, that is.
>
> > > >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Pat<PatrickDHarring...@hotmail.com>
> >  wrote:
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> > > >>> On May 31, 5:24 pm, RP Singh<123...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > >>>> Whatever a man does he is bound to do as the Will of God is supreme,
> > > >>>> but a person is not a robot. The " I " is an active agent and it is
> > > >>>> the individual who taking control over his nature does good in this
> > > >>>> world and on letting himself go does the bad. Strength of resolve is
> > > >>>> inherent in every person , some use it a lot, others let their
> > > >>>> impulses rule most of the time. It is in man's hand to keep his
> > nature
> > > >>>> under control , and again in his hand to let it run amok.
> > > >>> I agree with one exception.  Actually, it's more of an inclusion.  An
> > > >>> individual must discover their nature before taking control of it.
> > > >>> Then the rest follows...good or bad.  For example, I fully believe
> > > >>> that Charles Manson DID discover his true nature and STILL inflicted
> > > >>> great injuries against humanity.  The same for Hitler.  Sometimes,
> > > >>> knowing one's nature does not prevent one from doing evil but leads
> > > >>> them to do it.  In other words, if it is God's will that X be done
> > and
> > > >>> X is perceived by most people to be evil, X will still be done, as it
> > > >>> is the will of God.- Hide quoted text -
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