me and feels and acts in me. But I am just one emanation , God sees ,
feels thinks and acts in all as all are emanations of God. I a petty
emanation of God turn to the Father from whom the whole creation has
emanated and ask Him to cast His benign eye upon me as I just a small
part of God cannot think of myself to be God but his fragment. A
finger of my hand will just remain a finger and not be myself. Even
the whole Creation is just an emanation of God and cannot be called
God as He is the source of all and the rays of the sun cannot be
called the sun.
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, ornamentalmind
<ornsmindseyespam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> RP, thanks again for responding.
>
> I'll assume that you don't believe that god thinks conceptually the
> way humans do, correct?...no thinking using words either, right?
>
> On Apr 22, 7:07 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> God is aware in the sense that He is all or all emanates from Him and
>> thus automatically He knows everything and doesn't have to be aware of
>> things like us mortals. In my opinion , we should not conceive of Him
>> to be conscious in the way that we are because our consciousness
>> entails duality or is encompassed within borders. He is conscious in
>> us , acts in us but in His separate state He is oblivious of all as He
>> alone is and creation being changeable and subject to birth and death
>> is just an illusion. In my view that which is not permanent can be
>> called an illusion.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, ornamentalmind
>>
>>
>>
>> <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > RP, are you suggesting that god is not conscious at all?...that all
>> > god is/does etc. is unconscious?
>>
>> > In either case, are you using one of the more common notions of what
>> > conscious means…like being self aware and knowing what one is doing?
>>
>> > On Apr 22, 1:45 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the
>> >> universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God. He doesn't look at
>> >> us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather
>> >> everything is happening according to laws which exist in His
>> >> unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down
>> >> definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among
>> >> us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us
>> >> as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life
>> >> itself to be a spiritual experience.
>>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling
>>
>> >> <aardvarkstudio.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, leerevdoug...@googlemail.com
>> >> > <l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Hey Chuck,
>>
>> >> >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is.
>>
>> >> >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand
>> >> >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are
>> >> >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be.
>>
>> >> > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts that help
>> >> > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be to
>> >> > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a path to
>> >> > continue our existence beyond the grave.
>>
>> >> >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants to
>> >> >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but
>> >> >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are the
>> >> >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, as
>> >> >> you have designed it.
>>
>> >> > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier task
>> >> > than the original design.
>>
>> >> > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the possibility
>> >> > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that anything
>> >> > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us.
>> >> > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity that could
>> >> > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance to
>> >> > anything we describe as a god.
>>
>> >> > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me:
>>
>> >> > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean come
>> >> > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a wax
>> >> > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell for
>> >> > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of tail?
>> >> > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude.
>>
>> >> > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of
>> >> > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we lowly
>> >> > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to convince 'em
>> >> > to mend their ways.
>>
>> >> > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a minimum he
>> >> > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one there are an
>> >> > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars
>> >> > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that stuff
>> >> > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to do than
>> >> > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new bike on
>> >> > his birthday.
>>
>> >> > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would see us as
>> >> > a minor infestation of germs at best.
>>
>> >> >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <aardvarkstudio.chu...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing it ?
>> >> >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to do it.
>> >> >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't come to
>> >> >> > > my mind.
>>
>> >> >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more
>> >> >> > specific?
>> >> >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping your
>> >> >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of reward for
>> >> >> > your accomplishments?
>>
>> >> >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is he
>> >> >> > causing
>> >> >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume of
>> >> >> > chemical messengers at the synapse?
>>
>> >> >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the latter.
>> >> >> > If it
>> >> >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to lift cars
>> >> >> > off
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