Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: More on Effort

Only the one "we have created". When I say "we have created" I mean the ones that we have created in our religious dogma. And yes, I do apply my standards to the validity of that dogma.

For instance, in the christian religion there is the concept of hell which is the place that bad boys and girls go if they don't obey god's commandments.

First, the commandments themselves are weak. For instance "thou shalt not kill". Thou shalt not kill what? Another human? An animal? The Forests? And is god seriously saying that there are absolutely no circumstances where you shouldn't take another life? If so then I'll apply my own standards and tell him to suck it.

Second, the christian dogma condemns sinners to an eternity in hell. To what purpose?

Is the goal of sending people to hell to punish or as revenge for pissing god off?

If it's revenge then yes, I will apply my own standards and say that the god described by christian religious dogma is lame and petty.

If the goal is to teach the sinner the error of his ways then there are better ways of doing that without an eternity of horrendous torture.

Finally,

 'Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame'

is not indicative of me applying my standards to God. It is indicative of me applying my standards to the people who claim that they know what god is and what it wants.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:09 AM, leerevdouglas@googlemail.com <lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:

So when you say:

 'Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame'

This is not indicitive of you applying your standards to God?

On Apr 27, 8:28 pm, Chuck Bowling <aardvarkstudio.chu...@gmail.com>
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> I am referring to the description itself. Not to the entity that it attempts
> to describe. The descriptions that humans use to describe their gods seems
> to be of something petty and vindictive. I assigned no such description to
> the thing they are attempting to embody.
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> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:58 AM, leerevdoug...@googlemail.com <

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> l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > I sure can, but you of course have already told us you know where when
> > you say:
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> > '....other than saying that any god described by humans seems to be
> > ridiculously petty or trivialized'
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> > Ridiculously petty or trivalised by whos standards?  Yours I would
> > assume.  So right there you equate your own sense of morality with
> > that of Gods, your human stadards you apply to God, I would call that
> > humanizing God.
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> > For the sake of openness, I belive that you are not that incorrect to
> > do so, however it is my belife that only the best of human thougths
> > and feelings can be attributed to God.  That though as I say is a

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