initialization - asteroids , or is it comits , or is it metiors, - ya
metiors, - for example , also in the case of plage there would have
to be tribes in S/america - africa that have no or not enough contact
w/outside ...... bugs - birds - rodants though .... . . still
ornamentalmind wrote:
> Lee, sadly it appears that you miss my point and intention…again!
>
> We are in full agreement about the omnipresent 'war' for resources.
> This is part of nature. (we agree, right?)
>
> Yes, assuming no cataclysmic event, the resulting 'thinning of the
> herd' will occur. (again, we agree, right?)
>
> And, in many ways we are in agreement about Nature and its own laws
> and rules…right?
>
> The only area we may actually disagree…and what you have not yet
> addressed includes the more recent possibility of nuclear war and/or
> contamination of the planet … both of which have the *possibility* of
> fully destroying life…at least human life. (First time in history this
> has been possible.)
>
> Also, due to our very recent ability to have mass groups of people
> travel to all areas of the globe and within just a few hours, we have
> the very real possibility of having a mass plague…and even members of
> the medical community say that it is possible that some events would
> spell the end of humanity…not just some of us.
>
> And, while sort of the opposite of a fight for 'resources', the way
> some are dumping in the ocean, in the soil, in other waters and in the
> air…all sorts of toxic and other wastes, we have a real possibility
> for disaster here.
>
> Perhaps we should mention genetic engineering too. Remember about a
> decade ago when the 'killer seed' was developed by Monsanto?...and
> they were going to use it on a global basis? (Seeds that would not
> reproduce…just grow once and that would be the end of it.) They use
> some of these today. And, many biologists have sounded the warning
> about such misuse of science and the possible global result(s). Of
> course, this can and does extend to genetic engineering when it comes
> to plants and animals (including humans)…and all of our foodstuffs.
> Humanity just does not know the result in most cases.
>
> Of course, as you suggest, overpopulation sort of takes care of
> itself; unfortunately, the resulting suffering is always great.
>
> So, in most areas I see us in perfect agreement Lee…just possibly in
> those you haven't mentioned yet.
>
>
> On Apr 6, 1:41 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
> wrote:
> > The we disagree my dearest Omy!
> >
> > I was dwelling on this last night, and what I think is that as violent
> > a species as we are if you are correct then the inevitable wars for
> > resources will be fought, many people on all sides will die and thus
> > the human population will be diminished.
> >
> > We are, in common with all other life on this planet, at the mercy of
> > mother nature and her natural rules and laws. As such if compatition
> > for resources becomes too much, the inevitable outcome is the thining
> > of the heard. Nature has many ways of doing this war amongst our
> > selves is only one tool.
> >
> > No mate looking long long term I think this planet will be sustaining
> > human life and others for a bloody long time yet, well past my death
> > and that of my great grand children. Heh and I intend to live for at
> > least another 1000 years.
> >
> > Of course you realise that I attach no morality to my words here.
> >
> > On Apr 5, 9:48 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes, it is common to ignore and/or 'miss' the trend. Of course there
> > > is "much that is good in humanity and our advances". My commentary is
> > > not intended to deny that. All that is being said is that for the
> > > first era in human history we are destroying the planet's ability to
> > > support life in many ways. This is all...and there is no special
> > > 'privy' involved...all it takes is the willingness to research and
> > > study it. It is clear and obvious to many today.
> >
> > > On Apr 5, 8:13 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Strange how people are I guess. I notice no such trend. In fact I see
> > > > much that is good in humanity and our advances, I simply do see any
> > > > evidance that we are moving down a path of self annilhilation and I'm
> > > > somewhat supprised of your doomsaying here OM. Are you privy to some
> > > > data that the rest of us are not perhaps?
> >
> > > > On Apr 5, 6:10 am, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Unless humanity recognizes the unity of all, our current path towards
> > > > > self annihilation is unstoppable.
> >
> > > > > On Apr 4, 6:55 pm, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > now MAYBE im a LITTLE CRAZY but it seams to
> > > > > > me that the direction we are hedding ( like a stream whose path is
> > > > > > directed by the mountain as it erodes the mountain , until its path
> > > > > > is eched out , and not easily broken away from ) is in the wrong
> > > > > > direction , ... why ?........ the answer is as vast as the expance of
> > > > > > the void of that which is unknown <------ see anyone can sound
> > > > > > politician like -------
> >
> > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > > > > > > Not at all pessimistic Malcolm, I keep hearing depressing news about my old
> > > > > > > highschool. Teachers overworked, theyve changed it from an alternative to an
> > > > > > > urban school with higher student ratios. They teach using computers a lot
> > > > > > > and the kids mostly slack off visiting facebook and youtube, there is a lot
> > > > > > > less one-on-one contact and interaction based learning. To top it off all
> > > > > > > this is because of no child left behind crap and teachers are so overworked
> > > > > > > they are doing their best just to teach to the test and pass them along.
> > > > > > > Someone will have to deal with it eventually while kids keep getting by on
> > > > > > > as little as possible fundamental skills and perpetual remedial panaceas.
> > > > > > > Not pessimist at all! They are destroying public education, and all the
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