- uh... pointless , disregardable
the taoist shaman wrote:
> i don't think that this is the first time we hahe had the possibly of
> initialization - asteroids , or is it comits , or is it metiors, - ya
> metiors, - for example , also in the case of plage there would have
> to be tribes in S/america - africa that have no or not enough contact
> w/outside ...... bugs - birds - rodants though .... . . still
>
> ornamentalmind wrote:
> > Lee, sadly it appears that you miss my point and intention…again!
> >
> > We are in full agreement about the omnipresent 'war' for resources.
> > This is part of nature. (we agree, right?)
> >
> > Yes, assuming no cataclysmic event, the resulting 'thinning of the
> > herd' will occur. (again, we agree, right?)
> >
> > And, in many ways we are in agreement about Nature and its own laws
> > and rules…right?
> >
> > The only area we may actually disagree…and what you have not yet
> > addressed includes the more recent possibility of nuclear war and/or
> > contamination of the planet … both of which have the *possibility* of
> > fully destroying life…at least human life. (First time in history this
> > has been possible.)
> >
> > Also, due to our very recent ability to have mass groups of people
> > travel to all areas of the globe and within just a few hours, we have
> > the very real possibility of having a mass plague…and even members of
> > the medical community say that it is possible that some events would
> > spell the end of humanity…not just some of us.
> >
> > And, while sort of the opposite of a fight for 'resources', the way
> > some are dumping in the ocean, in the soil, in other waters and in the
> > air…all sorts of toxic and other wastes, we have a real possibility
> > for disaster here.
> >
> > Perhaps we should mention genetic engineering too. Remember about a
> > decade ago when the 'killer seed' was developed by Monsanto?...and
> > they were going to use it on a global basis? (Seeds that would not
> > reproduce…just grow once and that would be the end of it.) They use
> > some of these today. And, many biologists have sounded the warning
> > about such misuse of science and the possible global result(s). Of
> > course, this can and does extend to genetic engineering when it comes
> > to plants and animals (including humans)…and all of our foodstuffs.
> > Humanity just does not know the result in most cases.
> >
> > Of course, as you suggest, overpopulation sort of takes care of
> > itself; unfortunately, the resulting suffering is always great.
> >
> > So, in most areas I see us in perfect agreement Lee…just possibly in
> > those you haven't mentioned yet.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 6, 1:41 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
> > wrote:
> > > The we disagree my dearest Omy!
> > >
> > > I was dwelling on this last night, and what I think is that as violent
> > > a species as we are if you are correct then the inevitable wars for
> > > resources will be fought, many people on all sides will die and thus
> > > the human population will be diminished.
> > >
> > > We are, in common with all other life on this planet, at the mercy of
> > > mother nature and her natural rules and laws. As such if compatition
> > > for resources becomes too much, the inevitable outcome is the thining
> > > of the heard. Nature has many ways of doing this war amongst our
> > > selves is only one tool.
> > >
> > > No mate looking long long term I think this planet will be sustaining
> > > human life and others for a bloody long time yet, well past my death
> > > and that of my great grand children. Heh and I intend to live for at
> > > least another 1000 years.
> > >
> > > Of course you realise that I attach no morality to my words here.
> > >
> > > On Apr 5, 9:48 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes, it is common to ignore and/or 'miss' the trend. Of course there
> > > > is "much that is good in humanity and our advances". My commentary is
> > > > not intended to deny that. All that is being said is that for the
> > > > first era in human history we are destroying the planet's ability to
> > > > support life in many ways. This is all...and there is no special
> > > > 'privy' involved...all it takes is the willingness to research and
> > > > study it. It is clear and obvious to many today.
> > >
> > > > On Apr 5, 8:13 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Strange how people are I guess. I notice no such trend. In fact I see
> > > > > much that is good in humanity and our advances, I simply do see any
> > > > > evidance that we are moving down a path of self annilhilation and I'm
> > > > > somewhat supprised of your doomsaying here OM. Are you privy to some
> > > > > data that the rest of us are not perhaps?
> > >
> > > > > On Apr 5, 6:10 am, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Unless humanity recognizes the unity of all, our current path towards
> > > > > > self annihilation is unstoppable.
> > >
> > > > > > On Apr 4, 6:55 pm, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > now MAYBE im a LITTLE CRAZY but it seams to
> > > > > > > me that the direction we are hedding ( like a stream whose path is
> > > > > > > directed by the mountain as it erodes the mountain , until its path
> > > > > > > is eched out , and not easily broken away from ) is in the wrong
> > > > > > > direction , ... why ?........ the answer is as vast as the expance of
> > > > > > > the void of that which is unknown <------ see anyone can sound
> > > > > > > politician like -------
> > >
> > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > > > > > > > Not at all pessimistic Malcolm, I keep hearing depressing news about my old
> > > > > > > > highschool. Teachers overworked, theyve changed it from an alternative to an
> > > > > > > > urban school with higher student ratios. They teach using computers a lot
> > > > > > > > and the kids mostly slack off visiting facebook and youtube, there is a lot
> > > > > > > > less one-on-one contact and interaction based learning. To top it off all
> > > > > > > > this is because of no child left behind crap and teachers are so overworked
> > > > > > > > they are doing their best just to teach to the test and pass them along.
> > > > > > > > Someone will have to deal with it eventually while kids keep getting by on
> > > > > > > > as little as possible fundamental skills and perpetual remedial panaceas.
> > > > > > > > Not pessimist at all! They are destroying public education, and all the
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