Monday, April 13, 2015

Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda

I suppose a lot depends on how far it has all gone Allan.  I think we've been had to such a degree that rational discussion is not possible for most people.  I don't even believe we know the reasons for such as our 'civil wars' and WW1 & WW2.  This view on Lincoln is a classic of the 'we get history upside down' brigade I tend to agree with - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/paul-craig-roberts-america-will-be-hard-pressed-survive-lies-it-lives

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 6:48:30 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
Modern beliefs
Words spinning free
Concepts

Ideas twisted
Bent to fit desires
Spiritually

Propaganda
Flowing  unabated daily
Spin doctors rule

Confused beliefs
Dictating life conditions
With God

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda

I once thought we could wander about under a shield of innocence Allan - and perhaps one can personally.  The problem seems to be that when one looks around, everyone else is infected.  Some of us have started calling the current state of affairs a "cuntocracy" - https://pinkindustry.wordpress.com/sociology/

I tend to think very few of us are actually economically active directly and are already reclusive in bullshit jobs and retirement - even if we still look after our kids and put what seems a full week in.  I think education may have been so bad that most people might struggle to fill a couple of sides of A4 on memories of it. 

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 3:08:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
When it comes to praganda nothing surprises me. It seem we live in world totally  manipulated by propaganda that is in total  control or at least tries to control our reality. .

My questions  lie along the line of how does one escape such intense propaganda. . Become isolated recluses?

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 3:34 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Propaganda

We like to think we can do rational discussion, yet there is now so much propaganda in our society it is hard to believe many of us are remotely prepared to argue with facts.


The situation is much worse than even this over-long video manages to put over.  Most entertainment drips with ideology and is made by remarkably few people.  I meet Americans who think propaganda critique like this is aimed at them.  I would rather say that, if there are 174 countries, there are 174 different versions of the propaganda.  Leadership tells the same lies everywhere, adjusting only the heroes and victims.

One area that has been interesting me is the extent of propaganda in the dire news and entertainment made available to us.  Why are series from Bonanza to NCIS so bad?  How do we end up with so many pro-police series given the weight of real incompetence and miscarriages of justice?  How can lawyers ever be presented other than as vile, fee-sucking parasites in a system in which justice is a rare fluke?

The name 'Bellissario' is in the credits of Magnum PI and NCIS.  This and a very few others are involved in making much of our entertainment, totally lacking in critical edge.  The same wooden actors seem to dominate everything too.

In the UK, half our journalists come from public schools (ie very high cost private schools) when only 7% of kids go to these bastions of privilege.  In the UK, it has taken a quarter of a century to bring the truth about deaths at a soccer match to light (Hillsborough) - what chance then of the truth about wars and economics in such a secrecy-prone society?

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