Thursday, March 31, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: capitalism

I don't think you will ever get rid of money  but it is possible to create super funds in a relitivly short time..   the trick is to do it from the point of view of service to mankind   instead of the greed of the individual.
Allan

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:36 PM, leerevdouglas@googlemail.com <lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
Hey Allan,

The point though is to get rid of the whole concept.  There would be
no funds.

I have said it before and no doubt I'll say it agian.  Robot work
force!

On Mar 31, 7:59 am, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It would really be nice if we could get away from money ,, but the only
> solution I see is a communal one,, and creating common funds that are for
> the benefit of all people not just the few.  using the money to create
> things like windmill power generation, vertical green houses where each one
> can produce enough food for 50,000 people  the list goes on..  I know this
> type of project make money  but, it would allow the funds to grow and
> eventually be able to over power the super rich.
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, leerevdoug...@googlemail.com <
>
>
>
>
>
> l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > Bryan I'm with you 100% on this one.
>
> > Much of the worlds ills can be put down to simple love of money.  Take
> > away the money, find a better way, I'm all for that.
>
> > On Mar 29, 7:28 pm, Bryan Oboczky <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Why should there b welth at all ? No welth no control +equality
> > > why does it have to be about my finantal situation. What about the
> > > people rationing water and food . People u never met ~nor have i ~...
> > > Lazarus... And once again the exact stats of welth dont matter/the
> > > point is the same~so yes i hold responsible the rich and system of $
> > > in general
>
> > > On 3/29/11, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It is not necessarily unimportant, last time I played cards for money
> > (over
> > > > 32 years ago) I sat at a black jack table and started with $80 and when
> > I
> > > > quit I had over $28,000.oo in chips in my pocket.. in the game the put
> > in
> > > > two shill dealers against me.  I lost my job as a dealer over it, also
> > > > decided it was immoral. So I quit gambling..  point is you never know
> > who
> > > > you are playing against.
>
> > > > If you want a redistribution of wealth then it requires a wise plan and
> > > > massive amounts of knowledge.  It is possible but to do it you would
> > need to
> > > > totally stay away from drugs.. and then understand your beliefs and
> > then how
> > > > create a church to keep the wealth from evaporating or ending up in
> > > > an individuals hands..  You will need to understand funds and economic
> > > > development.. as well as keeping it working for all the people.  It is
> > a
> > > > tricky path to walk. but possible .. lol one step at a time.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, the taoist shaman
> > > > <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >> i know its not realistic , u being better at cards than me is beside
> > > >> the point , its not 500 to 50 its 1 holding 98 to 99 holding 2 , if u
> > > >> think thats a fair playing feild and that were not going to end up
> > > >> slaves to the rich?! so what ,its adog eat dog world and thats that?!
> > > >> FTS! and how many people would prefer poverty and gov. control over
> > > >> freedom and prosparety ! the rich and the politician , but soon the
> > > >> politician will be the only  one to hold wleth, capitalism is coming
> > > >> to an end , if one person or group holds all $ there is no money only
> > > >> compleate control, but this would cause revolution , so u throw a bone
> > > >> for the dog to chew and keep him bussy and happy , dosile, r u a dog ,
> > > >> am I !
>
> > > >> leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > >> > Your card game anology does not take into account the skill of the
> > > >> > players.
>
> > > >> > I'm in fact a very good card player and I recon if you start with
> > $500
> > > >> > and I $50 then there is a slightly less than even chance I'll take
> > all
> > > >> > of your money.
>
> > > >> > On Mar 29, 1:38 pm, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > organized world wide revelution, this conversation is proof of
> > fast
> > > >> > > easy communication , if evryone picks up a gun at the same time,
> > to
> > > >> > > rebell against all gov..... .  .  . there would or course ,
> > > >> > > afterwards , need to be  NON PROFIT organizations set up by the
> > > >> > > people  for transportation and equal distrabution of goods -
> > evryone
> > > >> > > pulls weight- if u want to go to school to be a doctor u reward is
> > > >> > > pride and doing good for others- the greedy selfseeking people of
> > the
> > > >> > > world who diminish the quality of life for litteraly billions of
> > > >> > > others - would have nothing to leech off
>
> > > >> > > if we play a game of cards and i start withh 500$ to evryone elses
> > 50$
> > > >> > > - and i dont take every last bit of $ from evryone else
> > > >> > > - .... .  .   . well , i would have to be stupid - or evryone else
> > > >> > > would have to quit the game befor i took everything thay had - and
> > if
> > > >> > > they didnt , they would have to be stupid.
>
> > > >> > > i think its time we quit the game
>
> > > >> > > leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > >> > > > What do you propose?
>
> > > >> > > > On Mar 28, 12:03 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > 98% of the worlds welth is held by 1% of the population
> > .........
> > > >> even
> > > >> > > > > gov. that isnt capitalist is subjected to capitalism ......
> > the
> > > >> entire
> > > >> > > > > world is...... what happens when 100% is held by 1% , how do
> > we
> > > >> > > > > all
> > > >> > > > > accept this, because thats the way it is?  are we a colony of
> > ants
> > > >> > > > > working for our queen because we are told to?....... are we so
> > > >> simple
> > > >> > > > > as a species the we will accept what situation were given
> > untill
> > > >> > > > > it
> > > >> > > > > gets so bad that we have to fight
>
> > > >> > > > > if theres a storm on the horizon do u wate for it to come
> > before
> > > >> > > > > taking shelter ?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > --
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> > > >   )
> > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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>   )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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I_D Allan

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,


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