Thursday, March 31, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: capitalism

you cant get rid of greed w-out getting rid of $

even then you cant get rid of greed , but it would be a lot easier to
controll

allan deheretic wrote:
> I don't think you will ever get rid of money but it is possible to create
> super funds in a relitivly short time.. the trick is to do it from the
> point of view of service to mankind instead of the greed of the
> individual.
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:36 PM, leerevdouglas@googlemail.com <
> lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Allan,
> >
> > The point though is to get rid of the whole concept. There would be
> > no funds.
> >
> > I have said it before and no doubt I'll say it agian. Robot work
> > force!
> >
> > On Mar 31, 7:59 am, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It would really be nice if we could get away from money ,, but the only
> > > solution I see is a communal one,, and creating common funds that are for
> > > the benefit of all people not just the few. using the money to create
> > > things like windmill power generation, vertical green houses where each
> > one
> > > can produce enough food for 50,000 people the list goes on.. I know
> > this
> > > type of project make money but, it would allow the funds to grow and
> > > eventually be able to over power the super rich.
> > > Allan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, leerevdoug...@googlemail.com <
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > > > Bryan I'm with you 100% on this one.
> > >
> > > > Much of the worlds ills can be put down to simple love of money. Take
> > > > away the money, find a better way, I'm all for that.
> > >
> > > > On Mar 29, 7:28 pm, Bryan Oboczky <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Why should there b welth at all ? No welth no control +equality
> > > > > why does it have to be about my finantal situation. What about the
> > > > > people rationing water and food . People u never met ~nor have i ~...
> > > > > Lazarus... And once again the exact stats of welth dont matter/the
> > > > > point is the same~so yes i hold responsible the rich and system of $
> > > > > in general
> > >
> > > > > On 3/29/11, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > It is not necessarily unimportant, last time I played cards for
> > money
> > > > (over
> > > > > > 32 years ago) I sat at a black jack table and started with $80 and
> > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > quit I had over $28,000.oo in chips in my pocket.. in the game the
> > put
> > > > in
> > > > > > two shill dealers against me. I lost my job as a dealer over it,
> > also
> > > > > > decided it was immoral. So I quit gambling.. point is you never
> > know
> > > > who
> > > > > > you are playing against.
> > >
> > > > > > If you want a redistribution of wealth then it requires a wise plan
> > and
> > > > > > massive amounts of knowledge. It is possible but to do it you
> > would
> > > > need to
> > > > > > totally stay away from drugs.. and then understand your beliefs and
> > > > then how
> > > > > > create a church to keep the wealth from evaporating or ending up in
> > > > > > an individuals hands.. You will need to understand funds and
> > economic
> > > > > > development.. as well as keeping it working for all the people. It
> > is
> > > > a
> > > > > > tricky path to walk. but possible .. lol one step at a time.
> > > > > > Allan
> > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, the taoist shaman
> > > > > > <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >> i know its not realistic , u being better at cards than me is
> > beside
> > > > > >> the point , its not 500 to 50 its 1 holding 98 to 99 holding 2 ,
> > if u
> > > > > >> think thats a fair playing feild and that were not going to end up
> > > > > >> slaves to the rich?! so what ,its adog eat dog world and thats
> > that?!
> > > > > >> FTS! and how many people would prefer poverty and gov. control
> > over
> > > > > >> freedom and prosparety ! the rich and the politician , but soon
> > the
> > > > > >> politician will be the only one to hold wleth, capitalism is
> > coming
> > > > > >> to an end , if one person or group holds all $ there is no money
> > only
> > > > > >> compleate control, but this would cause revolution , so u throw a
> > bone
> > > > > >> for the dog to chew and keep him bussy and happy , dosile, r u a
> > dog ,
> > > > > >> am I !
> > >
> > > > > >> leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> > Your card game anology does not take into account the skill of
> > the
> > > > > >> > players.
> > >
> > > > > >> > I'm in fact a very good card player and I recon if you start
> > with
> > > > $500
> > > > > >> > and I $50 then there is a slightly less than even chance I'll
> > take
> > > > all
> > > > > >> > of your money.
> > >
> > > > > >> > On Mar 29, 1:38 pm, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > organized world wide revelution, this conversation is proof of
> > > > fast
> > > > > >> > > easy communication , if evryone picks up a gun at the same
> > time,
> > > > to
> > > > > >> > > rebell against all gov..... . . . there would or course ,
> > > > > >> > > afterwards , need to be NON PROFIT organizations set up by
> > the
> > > > > >> > > people for transportation and equal distrabution of goods -
> > > > evryone
> > > > > >> > > pulls weight- if u want to go to school to be a doctor u
> > reward is
> > > > > >> > > pride and doing good for others- the greedy selfseeking people
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > > world who diminish the quality of life for litteraly billions
> > of
> > > > > >> > > others - would have nothing to leech off
> > >
> > > > > >> > > if we play a game of cards and i start withh 500$ to evryone
> > elses
> > > > 50$
> > > > > >> > > - and i dont take every last bit of $ from evryone else
> > > > > >> > > - .... . . . well , i would have to be stupid - or evryone
> > else
> > > > > >> > > would have to quit the game befor i took everything thay had -
> > and
> > > > if
> > > > > >> > > they didnt , they would have to be stupid.
> > >
> > > > > >> > > i think its time we quit the game
> > >
> > > > > >> > > leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > What do you propose?
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Mar 28, 12:03 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > 98% of the worlds welth is held by 1% of the population
> > > > .........
> > > > > >> even
> > > > > >> > > > > gov. that isnt capitalist is subjected to capitalism
> > ......
> > > > the
> > > > > >> entire
> > > > > >> > > > > world is...... what happens when 100% is held by 1% , how
> > do
> > > > we
> > > > > >> > > > > all
> > > > > >> > > > > accept this, because thats the way it is? are we a colony
> > of
> > > > ants
> > > > > >> > > > > working for our queen because we are told to?....... are
> > we so
> > > > > >> simple
> > > > > >> > > > > as a species the we will accept what situation were given
> > > > untill
> > > > > >> > > > > it
> > > > > >> > > > > gets so bad that we have to fight
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > > if theres a storm on the horizon do u wate for it to come
> > > > before
> > > > > >> > > > > taking shelter ?- Hide quoted text -
> > >
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> > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > (
> > > > > > )
> > > > > > I_D Allan
> > >
> > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
> > >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> > >
> > > --
> > > (
> > > )
> > > I_D Allan
> > >
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
> > >
> > > - Show quoted text -
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> --
> (
> )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

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